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Do You Believe In The Doctrines of Grace?

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Rippon

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Now Allan , cool your heels .

Particular Redemption = Limited Atonement

It's in all the systematics , from the strongly Reformed to the strongly Arminian .

Should historically established terms be abandoned and adjusted for your convenience ?! "Ladies and gentlemen . May I have your attention please ? A fellow named Allan would like all books regarding doctrine to accommodate his preferences regarding previous historically established theological terms . He would like the rest of Christianity to follow his lead ." Okay , I'm sure everyone would gladly assent to that wish of yours .
 
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Rippon said:
Now Allan , cool your heels .

Particular Redemption = Limited Atonement

It's in all the systematics , from the strongly Reformed to the strongly Arminian .

Should historically established terms be abandoned and adjusted for your convenience ?! "Ladies and gentlemen . May I have your attention please ? A fellow named Allan would like all books regarding doctrine to accommodate his preferences regarding previous historically established theological terms . He would like the rest of Christianity to follow his lead ." Okay , I'm sure everyone would gladly assent to that wish of yours .
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You only persist in establishing my point with your inane comments. In any case, I forgive you Rippon. I pray that God will grant you repentence...
 
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skypair

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The end of this argument is this -- "in Christ ALL are made alive."

ALL? Yes! Every single human ever born will be brought back to life to stand before Christ in judgment ...

1) in salvation (resurrected from life to life),

2) at the 2nd coming (OT and trib saints + infants, etc. resurrected from death to life) or

3) at the GWT (for the lost - resurrected from death to 2nd death).

Do you deny this, rip? EVERYONE will have a body to be judged in because Christ died for every man. There is only ONE unpardonable sin -- because it is OF OMMISSION (Rom 1:20) -- for which payment could not be made --> not receiving the Spirit/God/Christ! But that doesn't mean that God "omits" His part ... the resurrection of ALL men by Christ's death for ALL men.

skypair
 
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Rippon

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Rippon said:
Now Allan , cool your heels .

Particular Redemption = Limited Atonement

It's in all the systematics , from the strongly Reformed to the strongly Arminian .

Should historically established terms be abandoned and adjusted for your convenience ?! "Ladies and gentlemen . May I have your attention please ? A fellow named Allan would like all books regarding doctrine to accommodate his preferences regarding previous historically established theological terms . He would like the rest of Christianity to follow his lead ." Okay , I'm sure everyone would gladly assent to that wish of yours .
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That's my post numbered #101 .
 
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Allan's contention that the terms Particular Redemption and Limited Atonement should be recast to fit his definition . . Strong Arminians who loathe P.R. know what it refers to -- it's in Church History manuals , systematics etcetera .
 
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skypair

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skypair said:
The end of this argument is this -- "in Christ ALL are made alive."

ALL? Yes! Every single human ever born will be brought back to life to stand before Christ in judgment ...

1) in salvation (resurrected from life to life),

2) at the 2nd coming (OT and trib saints + infants, etc. resurrected from death to life) or

3) at the GWT (for the lost - resurrected from death to 2nd death).

Do you deny this, rip? EVERYONE will have a body to be judged in because Christ died for every man. There is only ONE unpardonable sin -- because it is OF OMMISSION (Rom 1:20) -- for which payment could not be made --> not receiving the Spirit/God/Christ! But that doesn't mean that God "omits" His part ... the resurrection of ALL men by Christ's death for ALL men.

skypair
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I guess avoidance is now the highest form of flattery now, eh Rip? :laugh:

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Past the 10-page limit and into sniping and snide, so will stop yet another thread on the same old same old. ;)
 
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