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Aaron

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What I take from this is that there is no specific person or group of persons presently trying to groom your children toward deviant sexual behavior. But, you are afraid there might be so therefore you will read these radical stories and imagine they are common.
As parents, we have a responsibility to groom our children to worship Christ and not fall in to sin. This is what I have done. I never once worried about what might happen to my children because we talk and enjoy being together as a family. I just haven't lived in fear.
I recall a missionary family who ministered in the red light district of Amsterdam talking about the relationships they were building with prostitutes. They mentioned one prostitute who they were such good friends with that they asked her to babysit their children. Do you worry she might be "grooming" those children?
I suggest people here at the BB stop reading fear mongering websites or watching fear mongering tv shows.
Be not deceived, evil communications corrupt good manners.

The Apostle prefaced the axiom with "be not deceived," because many are deceived.
 

percho

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And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Lo, in iniquity I have been brought forth, And in sin doth my mother conceive me.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh;

What is God doing?

Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

WHY?

What should we do?

And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.
And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

Why?

After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Why?

That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.


Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
 

canadyjd

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And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Lo, in iniquity I have been brought forth, And in sin doth my mother conceive me.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh;

What is God doing?

Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

WHY?

What should we do?

And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.
And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

Why?

After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Why?

That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.


Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
I agree… why? Why have you posted this? Why?

peace to you
 

5 point Gillinist

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Drag queen story hour(s), teaching homosexuality and all other deviant forms of sodomy to kids, hanging LGBT flags in classrooms, attempts to normalize pedophilia, parading around drag queen children, generally sexualizing children, children's shows that bring up deviant sexual lifestyles, etc.

No, it is quite clear that they are definitely not coming for your kids.
 

percho

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I agree… why? Why have you posted this? Why?

peace to you

I guess to show since the beginning everything is going according to Hoyle [God]. As the wise one said, there is nothing new under the sun, vanity of vanities, all is vanity but God is still in control ---

for to vanity was the creation made subject -- not of its will, but because of Him who did subject it -- in hope,
For I reckon that the sufferings of the present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory about to be revealed in us; for the earnest looking out of the creation doth expect the revelation of the sons of God;

I got a feeling those revealed sons are the ones God has taken out of the nations as a people for his name.

And then:

that also the creation itself shall be set free from the servitude of the corruption to the liberty of the glory of the children of God;
 

AustinC

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Be not deceived, evil communications corrupt good manners.

The Apostle prefaced the axiom with "be not deceived," because many are deceived.
Good verse, but you are dancing around the question. Is one of your childrens teachers or mentors "grooming" your child to be a homosexual or transvestite?

I support home schooling so if you home school, great. If you send to public school, you are still responsible to train your children in the word of God.

Here's the context of your misquote of scripture:
1 Corinthians 15:30-34
Why are we in danger every hour? I protest, brothers, by my pride in you, which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die every day! What do I gain if, humanly speaking, I fought with beasts at Ephesus? If the dead are not raised, “Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.” Do not be deceived: “Bad company ruins good morals.” Wake up from your drunken stupor, as is right, and do not go on sinning. For some have no knowledge of God. I say this to your shame.
 

Silverhair

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Drag queen story hour(s), teaching homosexuality and all other deviant forms of sodomy to kids, hanging LGBT flags in classrooms, attempts to normalize pedophilia, parading around drag queen children, generally sexualizing children, children's shows that bring up deviant sexual lifestyles, etc.

No, it is quite clear that they are definitely not coming for your kids.

Only those that are willfully blind can not see that is their agenda. For a christian to defend such an action with do not condemn until it is proven in court is beyond understanding.
 

AustinC

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Only those that are willfully blind can not see that is their agenda. For a christian to defend such an action with do not condemn until it is proven in court is beyond understanding.
No defending bad behavior or a false agenda. I point out your false agenda constantly.

My consistent point, here, is that there is not a homosexual/transgender groomer around every bush you pass.
People here are posting in fear and then bashing me for telling them to stop being fear filled and worrying.

I ask this one question.

Does God have our children in the palm of His hand?
 

just-want-peace

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Only those that are willfully blind can not see that is their agenda. For a christian to defend such an action with do not condemn until it is proven in court is beyond understanding.

These may(???) fit the “harmless as doves” criteria, but they sure do miss the “wise as serpents” portion!
 

5 point Gillinist

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Only those that are willfully blind can not see that is their agenda. For a christian to defend such an action with do not condemn until it is proven in court is beyond understanding.


It's already beginning to make its way into rural Kansas - I'd hate to see how bad it is in progressive states. It is quite disturbing how prayer is banned in School, but having degenerates come read stories to your children in school is not only acceptable but garners the praise of the world.
As a Christian to turn a blind eye is to let it get worse, sort of like how God was removed from American society, and all sorts of wickedness filled its place. It is rather embarrassing for American Christians when Lot took more of a stand than many of us do.
 

CalTech

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No, do you?

The call of Christ is for compassion to those who are in various states of distress over their bodies and sexual identity. The Spirit explicitly sent Phillip to bear witness to the Ethiopian eunuch (who was not allowed in the Temple) and he received grace. We need to lead with grace and direct those persons into discipleship to Jesus.

There may well be differences of opinion as to the best way to do that, but mocking people as ‘trannies’ is obviously not the right thing to do as a Christian.

The Lord bless you for this, I totally agree with you, because I as a child, teenager and early adulthood, desired to be a girl. I grew up with so much confusion of who and what I was. Due to sexual, physical, emotional abuse from my mother, and other adults and a father who was never truly there for me, this was the cause why I desired to be a completely different person, I rejected who I was born as, and living in the homosexual life for many years, my only friends were also men who did drag, and desired to change their sex all because they had very sad family lives.....so much abuse....

What Christians or disciples of the Lord need to understand, that ALL sin is sin and there is no difference in the Lord's eyes.
I have met so many "Christians" who have felt they were better than me, more "righteous" and were very much "spiritual bullies' with no understanding or compassion towards' those who were so "depraved". Look at what the attitude was with "Anita Bryant" and the "Moral Majority" group, there hateful and unChrist like actions and words caused the murder's of homosexual persons. Do wonder why the homosexual's are trying to take over, back in the 60's and 70's they were fearful for their lives due to the attitudes of so called "Christians".

I Praise the Lord for His saving Power Grace which the Holy Spirit granted to me some 44 years ago. I can tell you what Hell I have gone through for the Lord to undue all the sickening abuses done to me as a toddler and teenager, and my personality disorders due to those sickening trespasses done against me. Remember the poor man with the 1000 demon's, no one desired to be near him let alone assist him, however the Love of Christ sought that poor depraved man, without the man seeking him, and the Lord delivered his from ALL his demon's, and the man sat at the Lord's feet, clothed in garments, he was set free, and it was for a purpose, to proclaim what the Love of God and the Grace of the Lord can do for such depraved and lowly beings! Because I was one of them, and I can have compassion and understanding what many in the Homosexual life goes through, and it is a very lonely, dark, and for many a depraved life........it takes one to know one, and understand.....

We need to let the Lord above deal with all our self-righteous prides, and religious idols, and when we can realize and know what worms, and specks of dust we are as Job, Jeremiah and so many other's experienced when comparing their lives to the Beauty of His Holiness...which is nothing but unadulterated Righteousness and Grace, well then we can understand how to be "sick with Love" towards the Lord who truly knows what Holy Love is towards a dying humanity.....

Lord bless you all....
In His Love....
 

CalTech

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Body mutilation can be a sin.
Being attracted to either gender is not sin. Acting upon that attraction outside of God's ordination of marriage is sin.
All sin is brought upon us by the curse and by demonic influence. Don't imagine that you haven't been demonically influenced today, sbw.
When people are spiritually dead in sin, they will openly act according to their sin nature. We who have been redeemed by God's gracious mercy, would be doing the same things if God did not intervene on our behalf.
I work with a number of homosexuals and transexual people. While I do not understand their attractions, I still love them as created image bearers who are cursed by the fall. I find, like all humans, they can be funny and caring people who long for community. Like all lost people, they do not see their lifestyle as sin. My task is to lovingly show them the need for reconciliation with Jesus. I pray that they come to saving faith.
What I won't do is I won't hate them. I will show compassion to them. How about you?


AMEN!
The Lord bless you!
In His Love....
 

Centrist

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Gender dysphoria is clear a severe form of mental illness. Homosexuality, I dunno. But when you have parents allowing their pre-pubescent children to decide their gender, those parents are committing the worse form of child molestation. I will withhold my opinion on the appropriate punishment for that so I don't get banned....
 

Silverhair

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No defending bad behavior or a false agenda. I point out your false agenda constantly.

My consistent point, here, is that there is not a homosexual/transgender groomer around every bush you pass.
People here are posting in fear and then bashing me for telling them to stop being fear filled and worrying.

I ask this one question.

Does God have our children in the palm of His hand?

This not from fear, it is from caution. Why would I send someone I care about into a situation where they are being taught about a lifestyle that the bible speaks against. Would I talk to those caught in that lifestyle, YES and I have many times. God loves all of His creation and wants all to be saved including those whose lifestyle you may disagree with.
 

AustinC

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This not from fear, it is from caution. Why would I send someone I care about into a situation where they are being taught about a lifestyle that the bible speaks against. Would I talk to those caught in that lifestyle, YES and I have many times. God loves all of His creation and wants all to be saved including those whose lifestyle you may disagree with.
1) Homeschool if you prefer. That's fine. Yet, realize that you have to hand over your children to Gods protective hand, because you won't always be there.
2) I am glad you will talk with sinners. Jesus sat, ate, drank and laughed with sinners. Would you go to a transgendered persons house for a meal if they asked you to come over?
Answering for myself, I would go.
 

percho

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The Lord bless you for this, I totally agree with you, because I as a child, teenager and early adulthood, desired to be a girl. I grew up with so much confusion of who and what I was. Due to sexual, physical, emotional abuse from my mother, and other adults and a father who was never truly there for me, this was the cause why I desired to be a completely different person, I rejected who I was born as, and living in the homosexual life for many years, my only friends were also men who did drag, and desired to change their sex all because they had very sad family lives.....so much abuse....

What Christians or disciples of the Lord need to understand, that ALL sin is sin and there is no difference in the Lord's eyes.
I have met so many "Christians" who have felt they were better than me, more "righteous" and were very much "spiritual bullies' with no understanding or compassion towards' those who were so "depraved". Look at what the attitude was with "Anita Bryant" and the "Moral Majority" group, there hateful and unChrist like actions and words caused the murder's of homosexual persons. Do wonder why the homosexual's are trying to take over, back in the 60's and 70's they were fearful for their lives due to the attitudes of so called "Christians".

I Praise the Lord for His saving Power Grace which the Holy Spirit granted to me some 44 years ago. I can tell you what Hell I have gone through for the Lord to undue all the sickening abuses done to me as a toddler and teenager, and my personality disorders due to those sickening trespasses done against me. Remember the poor man with the 1000 demon's, no one desired to be near him let alone assist him, however the Love of Christ sought that poor depraved man, without the man seeking him, and the Lord delivered his from ALL his demon's, and the man sat at the Lord's feet, clothed in garments, he was set free, and it was for a purpose, to proclaim what the Love of God and the Grace of the Lord can do for such depraved and lowly beings! Because I was one of them, and I can have compassion and understanding what many in the Homosexual life goes through, and it is a very lonely, dark, and for many a depraved life........it takes one to know one, and understand.....

We need to let the Lord above deal with all our self-righteous prides, and religious idols, and when we can realize and know what worms, and specks of dust we are as Job, Jeremiah and so many other's experienced when comparing their lives to the Beauty of His Holiness...which is nothing but unadulterated Righteousness and Grace, well then we can understand how to be "sick with Love" towards the Lord who truly knows what Holy Love is towards a dying humanity.....

Lord bless you all....
In His Love....

If you would watch Minute 51:21 thru 53:25 of post 5 in Food for thought thread and let me know it if that applied in your case.

Thanks in advance.
 

CalTech

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Would I find that in the "Forums" section under "Food For Thought"? I am new here, I tried to find it, alas, not as yet.
I would appreciate a bit more info where to find it.
Thank you and the Lord bless you!
 

CalTech

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Would you go to a transgendered persons house for a meal if they asked you to come over?
Would you go to a transgendered persons house for a meal if they asked you to come over?

Yes I would as the Lord will's it............I have been amongst them already in some situation's.
 

AustinC

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Gender dysphoria is clear a severe form of mental illness. Homosexuality, I dunno. But when you have parents allowing their pre-pubescent children to decide their gender, those parents are committing the worse form of child molestation. I will withhold my opinion on the appropriate punishment for that so I don't get banned....
Mental illness? Spiritual illness and manipulation by demonic forces, yes.
I agree that parents or guardians who consent to minors disfiguring the body God created for them and order transition procedures is wrong in every facet. It should be banned.

We have a world that is lost in sin. May God be gracious and heal us.
 

CalTech

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Mental illness? Spiritual illness and manipulation by demonic forces, yes.
I agree that parents or guardians who consent to minors disfiguring the body God created for them and order transition procedures is wrong in every facet. It should be banned.

We have a world that is lost in sin. May God be gracious and heal us.

Austin, I would have to disagree on your thoughts that "transition procedures" should be banned. We as believer's can only be a living witness to those who are caught into such a devilish agenda, but our Lord forbids us to seek "legal" measures to force stop unbeliever's from doing such sickening measures, because there needs to be a separation of church and state!
It is the work of the Holy Spirit to convict sinner's of their sin's, no matter how deviate they maybe, passing "laws" to forbid will NOT work, because they will find away to get the procedure's done no matter what.
We are NOT to be entangled in the affairs of this World........the Lord shall bring His Judgement against evil doer's in His Time in His Way, we are to just be testifier's of His Wonderful Saving Grace, and leave God to bring about the increase!

Lord bless you!
 
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