Doctrine of Grace/Calvinisim In Hymns and Songs

Calvinists would say, "Yes, you will, whether at this moment or later. There is no question about it."

Oh, and it really should be "You who are longing" not "you that are longing".

 

Next time I write a hymn, I'll remember that. :thumbs:

 

Thank you PinoyBaptist . This hymn is another that expresses my thoughts quite well regarding my salvation and 'decision-making powers' . On another thread "God Got The Memo" DHK wanted more info about my conversion et.al -- this hymn communicates what all true believers , not only Calvinists have experienced .

 

When I first glanced at the hymn, I thought it was unknown to me. However, I soon found that it is the one that in my hymn book has what I assume to be Conder's original words:

’Tis not that I did choose Thee,
For Lord, that could not be;
This heart would still refuse Thee,
Hadst Thou not chosen me.
Thou from the sin that stained me
Hast cleansed and set me free;
Of old Thou hast ordained me,
That I should live to Thee.

’Twas sov’reign mercy called me
And taught my op’ning mind;
The world had else enthralled me,
To heav’nly glories blind.
My heart owns none before Thee,
For Thy rich grace I thirst;
This knowing, if I love Thee,
Thou must have loved me first.

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But I do like the version quoted by pinoybaptist.

 

This one is on page 289 of the SBC's Baptist Hymnal 1991.

This one is on p. 542. "In Loving Kindness Jesus Came."

2nd verse:

He called me long before I heard, before my sinful heart was stirred.
But when I took him at his word, forgiven, He lifted me.


And iin the Baptist Hymnal p.337 "I Know Whom I Have Believed"

I know not why God's wondrous grace to me He hath made known.
Nor why, unworthy, Christ in love redeemed me for his own.

v.2
I know not how this saving faith to me he did impart,
Nor how believing in His Word, wrought peace within my heart.

v. 3
I know not how the Spirit moves, convincing men of sin,
Revealing Jesus through the Word, creating fath in Him.

 

I guess God is not the only one that can raise the dead.

This thread has been dead since 08-02-06 :laugh:

 

Correction : It laid dormant after the last post of 08/02/06 . As of early today ( your time ) it was revived . It was latent for approximately 20 months .So we are speaking of only temporary inactivity -- not that I'm being technical about this or anything !

 

Since Jesus' death was only for days...was that not considered a death and only "temporary inactivity", too?

 

No that was a real death . With respect to revived threads no physical death is in view .

 

I agree with many here as well! I don't see anything about salvation through baptism or infant baptism as Calvin believed. Am I missing something?

 

I'm sorry I thought Calvinism started with John Calvin?
"At whatever time we are baptized, we are washed and purified once for the whole of life" (Institutes, IV) - John Calvin
"By baptism we are engrafted into the body of Christ...infants are to be baptized...children of Christians, as they are immediately on their birth received by God as heirs of the covenant, are also to be admitted to baptism." (Institutes, IV) - John Calvin

Are you a Supralapsarian or a Sublapsarian?
I must just be mis-interpreting Calvinism? Maybe I should quote Pink or Fuller instead?

 

Calvinism doesn't mean that Calvinists subscribe to each and every particular of John Calvin . He was a great man who the Lord raised up for His purposes -- but he is not the be-all and end-all when it comes to Calvinism .Our theology does not stand or fall upon his teachings but that of Holy Writ . Most Calvinists here have read little to nothing of the man .

As Baptists we certainly do not agree with John Calvin's views upon the subject -- but he did not hold to baptismal regeneration .

Most of the beliefs espoused by John Calvin were expressed by scores of prominent men before Calvin's birth -- physical or spiritual .

 

Oh , no ! I have less than two hours to prepare !

 

Rippon - I've got my dial set and I'm waiting for the show to begin.

 

How about:

Adoption
Predestination
Election
Foreknowledge

 

"Whosoever" Meaneth Me

James E. McConnell, 1910

1. I am happy today, and the sun shines bright,
The clouds have been rolled away;
For the Savior said, whosoever will
May come with Him to stay.

* Refrain:
“Whosoever” surely meaneth me,
Surely meaneth me, oh, surely meaneth me;
“Whosoever” surely meaneth me,
“Whosoever” meaneth me.

2. All my hopes have been raised, oh, His Name be praised,
His glory has filled my soul;
I’ve been lifted up, and from sin set free,
His blood has made me whole.

3. Oh, what wonderful love, oh, what grace divine,
That Jesus should die for me;
I was lost in sin, for the world I pined,
But now I am set free.

Main subject: Invitation

Scripture: Revelation 22:17

http://library.timelesstruths.org/music/Whosoever_Meaneth_Me/

Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

BTW, Calvinism was not started by John Calvin....it began with Augustine (quoted 400 times by John Calvin in his Institutes on the Christian Religion)

 

The Lord started Calvinism . Jesus was a Calvinist .Paul followed in his train .Augustine was a late-comer .