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Doctrines of Calvinism denying the offer of salvation to the world
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Of course every Calvinist believes in irresistible grace (even if some term it differently). It's an essential doctrine of Reformed theology.
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Sinners always resist the call of God unto salvation, but those whom God intends to save will always respond yes!
Why does God call those He does not intend to save?
The effectual call doesn't mean that the individual doesn't put up a fight. After all, there is a spiritual war taking place. The effectual call means that once God calls, He wins every time. Look at Ephesians 2:5-6. God acted, not man. God wins.
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God makes a real offer to them to get saved now, but they resist due to sin natures, as God allows them to exercise their"free will"
God does not effectually call those who perish in their sins. There is a general call aspect of the Gospel (c.f. Acts 17:30), but the effectual call of God results in repentance and faith every single time.
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So you are then effectively saying that God does not want anyone to perish, yet denies that chance to hear the gospel and be lost? Just so that I understand you. In that case, the devil won the cosmic battle.
Thanks Reformed. I had red flags flying upon his initial post. His latest post confirms an odd view of redemption in the afterlife. Definitely not Calvinist...or biblical for that matter.
You misunderstand "anyone" as a universal statement.
The gospel will be understood by those whom God elects to understand. The gospel will be foolishness to all others.
God will reveal His gospel, during a person's life on earth, to all who are chosen to receive the good news. God will do this by any means He so chooses.
Those who die in their sins, die that way because they were never capable of understanding the gospel. They were always dead in their trespasses and sins. God is under no obligation to make them alive in Christ. He is the Sovereign King and it is His choice and His alone to make.
Yes, as many confuse the two, as believing God calls all sinners the same way!
They have free will if they are elect to go to Hell, but they have no free will if they are elect to Heaven?
I believe because God is Creator God and we are His creation and that God loves mankind, taking no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked. God loved the world (not just the elect but the world) by sending His Son. But God loves those who believe in a particular way (a love shown to them in a way different from the love demonstrated to the world) in that He saves them out of the world.
Free will as you understand it is a misnomer. Sinners do not have free will. Their will is in bondage to sin. Read 1 Cor. 2:14. The Natural man cannot understand the things of the Spirit of God. Why? Because his will is corrupt and enslaved to sin.
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They have free will as sinners, but they can only choose to reject Jesus, as sin natures are at war with God and do not want to submit to Him, while those who will get saved are enabled to choose Jesus, as the Holy Spirit brings them to Jesus to get saved!
Reynolds, with all due respect, you're starting to get circular in your questioning. You ask a question, receive an answer, and ask the same question again. I think you should prayerfully consider the answers you've received. I pray that God helps you in your pursuit of the truth.
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What I think you are missing is the answers given are unclear and he is simply asking for clarification.
If it is true that a regenerate person can only choose according to their nature (that which is spiritual) therefore they will choose God each and every time then would that not lead to perfection? Would it not also be true that the regenerate person will only and ever choose to do God's will? Would it not be impossible for regenerate person to sin?
Or does this choosing of God only apply to salvation?
Or does this choosing of God only apply to salvation?
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