Does 2 Cor 5:19 Teach...?

The way I understand is that we sinned against God and Jesus died for our sins and made an atonement or ransomed every man to God. Now for God to apply that blood to cover your sins, you must believe.
Except you believe, you do not receive the benefit of the blood.

 

The atonement was made to the Father completely, it is up to Him whether He applys it to your soul and if you do not believe, then your sins will not be covered. As I see it.

 

Those are your words not mine. The scripture says it is complete to the Father. You have to believe and repent and be born again, before you receive that blood, or else what about new converts, day after day, of which God adds to the church daily such as should be saved. I do not think the two posts contradict each other at all.

[5] For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
[6] Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Jesus is our advocate and God does the forgiving. Its kinda simple to me.


The blood was not potentially made but our receiving it is not sure or it would be universal.

Tell me TC; where does the blood come from for a new convert?

 

Christ's atonement was complete. "It is finished". Yet, we must believe to be saved.
It seems there are two parts. Atonement and faith.

Act 16:30 and after he brought them out, he said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
Act 16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."

 

Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Heb 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law Heb 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Heb 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; Heb 10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. Heb 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

 

I see no difference between the two.

 

I had to go out tonight to preach a nite service for a funeral, haven't been back long.

There is a difference of being complete with God as far as the atonement, and being complete with you. Also, complete with each new convert as long as time lasts. There is enough blood there to save the whole world, if they would only believe, repent and be born again.
If all the blood had already passed through the Father, there would be none left for all those who will be saved in the future.

 

Why must we believe?

 

Yes, I know. But we were talking about the atonement being complete. I guess I am confused.

 

Because God let His Son die for the sins of the whole world, but you must believe that Jesus is the Christ or God just not going to take the blood from His Son and wash your sins white as snow. God fixed it that way. Jesus did His part, now we must do ours. Believe!!! Jesus shed ALL of His blood and gave it to the Father as an atonement for the sins of all men, but its up to God to forgive and use the blood to cleanse you, if you believe.

 

I think I got confused on the direction of the conversation. We were talking about the atonement being complete or not complete until we believed.

Maybe I should go back and re-read.

 

Thanks, I was having trouble finding just the right words to convey my thoughts. I think its that IVY education you have........