Does Calvanism REALLY Turn God Into A Puppet master us Into puppets?

[quantumfaith]

I am not a Calvinist but I am confident God knows what He's doing. I'm just not confident that you know what He's doing. :laugh:

You have such wonderful and quick wit.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I am not a Calvinist but I am confident God knows what He's doing. I'm just not confident that you know what He's doing. :laugh:

Nobody asked you.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

EWF,

I am not a calvinist.....and yet....I am still confident of these in which you seem to imply that I am not.

Im not trying to imply. I dont imply.

 

[Amy.G]

Nobody asked you.

Yeah well you know us big mouthed women just don't know when to shut up! :laugh:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Yeah well you know us big mouthed women just don't know when to shut up! :laugh:

Please.....I put you on the same level as Quantum:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Alive in Christ]

Amy...

Dont worry, you did good. :thumbs:

I'm the one that occasionally goes a little bit overboard. :laugh:

 

[quantumfaith]

Im not trying to imply. I dont imply.

First of all, I was not being a smart aleck earlier. Second, if you place Amy and I on the same level, then I am honored.

 

[Amy.G]

Please.....I put you on the same level as Quantum:smilewinkgrin:

Thank you.

 

[convicted1]

As some here on the BB seem to believe this is one of many valid reasons to not becoming a Cal..

does the theology of calvinism then really remove all free will from man, we are indeed "Sinners in the hand of an Angry God?"

No, only the "elect" are puppets. The "non-elect" are born with "no strings attached", and just walk around aimlessly, until they die, and are thrown headlong into hell, and then delivered up before Jesus, and cast into the lake of fire for eternity!! The "elect" are "strung along" into heaven, and had no say in that part, either. This is how Calvinism comes across to me, though my DoG Brethern will tell me how "off base" I am.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

though my DoG Brethern will tell me how "off base" I am.

They just conclude that your still in rebellion against God.

 

[convicted1]

They just conclude that your still in rebellion against God.

Brother, I am not still in rebellion against God. I have been cleansed, washed, and bought by the BLOOD!! I am His!! Praise His sweet and holy name!!

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Brother, I am not still in rebellion against God. I have been cleansed, washed, and bought by the BLOOD!! I am His!! Praise His sweet and holy name!!

Willis, do you have any experience with alcoholics or drug addicts?

 

[convicted1]

Willis, do you have any experience with alcoholics or drug addicts?

I work in a hospital, so yes I do. It has a "vise-grip" lock on them. I used to drink some, but I never tried marijuana once.....didn't appeal to me.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I work in a hospital, so yes I do. It has a "vise-grip" lock on them. I used to drink some, but I never tried marijuana once.....didn't appeal to me.

OK, so would you consider out of control drinking a sin or do you perhaps feel that its a disease (that its a physical problem)? If so , how would you treat it?

 

[TomVols]

does the theology of calvinism then really remove all free will from man,

No. That's a pretty narrow caricature.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

No. That's a pretty narrow caricature.

Tom.....care to embellish? I ask because Ive heard this attack on Calvinists ad nauseium. Perhaps your explanation will be looked at with credibility.

 

[Skandelon]

No. That's a pretty narrow caricature.

I would agree in that Compatibilist claim men make free choices, but my problem is the way in which they define a free choice.

 

[webdog]

They just conclude that your still in rebellion against God.

...as if he has a choice in that

 

[Dr. Bob]

Ten-page limit. Civil. Anyone still have an issue not dealt with ad nauseum on the subject, start a new thread on THAT NARROW TOPIC only.

Tanks.