Read your post again... then tell me how you can address correct wording.
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Does Church of Rome Hold the The True Gospel?
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First, while it is the body and blood of he Lord, it is not flesh in the normal mode as anyone can see. It does not look like flesh or taste like blood so for you to continue to call it cannibalism is disingenuous.
To your other point, God commanded that we not eat pork, shellfish,etc. and yet....
Acts 10:13–15 (ASV): And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill and eat. 14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common and unclean. 15And a voice came unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, make not thou common.
So, even if the Lord commanded us to eat his flesh in the cannibalistic sense, could He not do so? Would you say “Not so, Lord”? Do you think the Lord is incapable of giving us his body under the appearance of bread? Just because it is hard to imagine does not make it untrue.
His spirit wasn't sacrificed, His flesh was - and that is what He wanted us to uphold, to remember as we worship - His sacrifice, THE sacrifice, the blood atonement for the sins of all mankind.
The evil one gave us the supposed reformation, Christianity was torn asunder by it.
Who lied to you?
I go by what I see. Are Christians one? Nope, not with the thousands of sects out there that disagree with each other on doctrines and belief's. It is clear, this was not from the Lord.
That's what you are basing your assumptions on? Interesting.
You mean the RCC was torn asunder. In its place now....well you can see what’s in its place now, and Joel Olstean profits by it. Just spreading the wealth.
But what if Christ is a name for the transcendent within the heart of every “thing” in the universe? What if Christ is another name for every thing—in its fullness?
Then do we really need any organized religion to go to in order to feel fulfilled. Then everything belongs
Then do we really need any organized religion to go to in order to feel fulfilled. Then everything belongs
The fact is that the Catholic Church has responded to the protests of the "separated brethren" so that in their own way they have admitted to being wrong in several ways.
Pope to Christians, Protestants: Stop prejudice, forgive sins of past
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No one is denying that. As non-Catholics our issue is with the doctrine of transubstantiation.
However, I respect your belief and desire to serve and worship Him.
We should know of our differences, accept them as a reality within Christendom and (if possible) glorify Him as you have done in your statement above.
I appreciate your charity Hank. We should all be so charitable with those we disagree with and acknowledge our common love for Him who died for us.
Agreed.- we should explain from scripture and background our faith values to achieve understanding rather than to promote confrontation.
Some debate may be called for but this one went into the realm of ad hominems on both views.
Yes are not going to get a diehard Catholic to profess anything negative against “mother church”... it is ingrained in them.
I think its better than the centuries of "no salvation outside the church".
Not true. Plenty of devoted Catholics are willing to admit faults in the Church. However, on this forum, in this type of thread in particular, Catholics should not be expected to concede an inch when others are taking a mile. I consider myself a guest on this site and I understand that and am appreciative of those of you willing to be charitable while still in disagreement. However, this thread is a perfect example of why many Catholics with whom you dialogue may not be forthcoming when discussing controversies in the Church. This thread was started as a pretense to attach the Church as the OP had no desire actually have an honest debate about what the Catholic Church teaches in regards to the Gospel. His discourse in this thread and others shows that he has no interest in actually researches what the Catholic Church teaches about this or any other topic. A few short minutes of research would disabuse him or the false notions he routinely presents. I think this says volumes about his intentions. That being said, I am sure you could find many Catholics willing to have a discussion about the Church when held in a setting where they are not eternally on the defensive. I have been a reader of this site for quite some time and I have the sense that you are a fair minded person so please do not take this as being addressed to you. I only hope to give you some insight into why you may be experiencing an unwillingness to speak negatively against the Church.
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Vincent, I don’t blame you with this lot. I persieved that they are not looking to explore Christian commonality, instead they are throwing rocks which Christ did not approve of. I for one am blessed to have had two members of my family who were both RC and transformed by the blessing of the Holy Spirit.
Thank you for those kind words. I sometimes fall short as to how He would have me act in this life, and I constantly beseech Him for help every single day. I have learned much from, and certainly respect my fellow Christians whom I have come into contact with.
I think so. Organized religion gives us a place to call home, it gives us teaching, direction, provides a place to worship and it's good offices are able to help the poor and destitute in many ways. Did Jesus want a "church" here on earth? I really believe He did and don't the Scriptures tell us that?
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