Does God Love the Seed of the Serpent?

[Iconoclast]

Well now... the context to the verse is only the Apostles . So that might identify the problem as in your court. I can demonstrate that fo

r you very easily
It is surprising that snip you have missed this .

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This is a good topic (one we will not have enough time to discuss here).

I believe that when the Spirit was sent He was sent as a helper to Christians. I do not believe that apart from God's Spirit one can discern spiritual things.

This is what some Baptists have referred to the "indwelling" of the Spirit. That you find this problematic is very interesting to me as I was not aware there were Baptists who denied this work of God in the lives of believers.

But this is a key (probably THE key) that separates us in how we view the "meat" of the Word. I do not believe the Holy Spirit revealed to the Apostles truth and His work was done. So the "meat" of the Word is not something I view as an apprehension of knowledge, but rather the working of God.

This is a good topic (one we will not have enough time to discuss here).

I believe that when the Spirit was sent He was sent as a helper to Christians. I do not believe that apart from God's Spirit one can discern spiritual things.

This is what some Baptists have referred to the "indwelling" of the Spirit. That you find this problematic is very interesting to me as I was not aware there were Baptists who denied this work of God in the lives of believers.

But this is a key (probably THE key) that separates us in how we view the "meat" of the Word. I do not believe the Holy Spirit revealed to the Apostles truth and His work was done. So the "meat" of the Word is not something I view as an apprehension of knowledge, but rather the working of God.

And once again I did not say anything that you just posted about.
I said nothing about baptists who deny the work of the Spirit
I will post when I get online where we can have plenty of time to.post clearly

 

[JonC]

And once again I did not say anything that you just posted about.
I said nothing about baptists who deny the work of the Spirit
I will post when I get online where we can have plenty of time to.post clearly

The Holy Spirit guided the Apostles into All Truth, not us.
We are given the Spirit to be able to welcome truth, but we do not have the same promise the Apostles had.
No... this is not milk issues, but meat.
Correct doctrinal root leads to correct spiritual fruit.

My comment is that the Holy Spirit works in the lives of believers. The Holy Spirit guides believers in their understanding of Scripture.

This is why I am saying that you need to begin study with prayer. The "meat" of the gospel is not something that can be reached apart from the work of the Spirit in the lives of each believer. It is not a bunch of doctrines that lead to more doctrines. It is the work of God.

Don't discount the Holy Spirit in the life of the believer or in spiritual understanding. The Father and Son sent the Spirit as a "Helper" - not just to guide the Apostles in what to write but to guide us.

The Holy Spirit guides us to all spiritual truth. We cannot claim to have arrived at spiritual truth in any other way. Even Peter's confession of Christ was of the Spirit.

 

[JonC]

Well, maybe not now that he (and The Bib) are no longer posting. I guess that makes you the victor, right? Happy now?

Yes. Very happy.

Plus I admitted I was wrong when you thought I wouldn't. That was almost as good as the salt rub you told me about .... except for the admitting I had made an error in my reply part .

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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