Does "The Church" exist?

[DHK]

There are scores of other passages of scripture that I could referrence to prove that all saints do not make up the escahatalogical bride of Revelation.

Jesus spoke of John the Baptist referring to him as the last of the prophets. He was the last OT prophet. He was also referred to as a "friend of the bride." He will not be a part of the bride, but a friend of the bride. Those who come to Christ will be a part of the bride whom Christ will take for his own.

I fail to see any other distinguishing divisions between the believers from John the Baptist until the rapture. This is the bride, those who will be raptured, that Christ will come for.

 

[The Biblicist]

Jesus spoke of John the Baptist referring to him as the last of the prophets. He was the last OT prophet. He was also referred to as a "friend of the bride." He will not be a part of the bride, but a friend of the bride. Those who come to Christ will be a part of the bride whom Christ will take for his own.

I fail to see any other distinguishing divisions between the believers from John the Baptist until the rapture. This is the bride, those who will be raptured, that Christ will come for.

Then you are at least claiming that Old Testament saints will not be part of the bride? That is four thousand years of time versus two thousand years of inclusive saints. Hence, salvation does not automatically make one part of the bride as we have four thousand years of saved people outside the bride.

 

[Alive in Christ]

Ann...

Biblicist is keeping track.


I am #1 as being wrong. :tongue3:

He then detirmened that Michael Wrenn was the 2nd one wrong. :tear:

You will probably be the 3rd one wrong. :wavey:

 

[DHK]

Then you are at least claiming that Old Testament saints will not be part of the bride? That is four thousand years of time versus two thousand years of inclusive saints. Hence, salvation does not automatically make one part of the bride as we have four thousand years of saved people outside the bride.

It is not a matter of time, but a matter of who.
John the Baptist was clearly indicated as a friend of the Bride.

Wrap yourself around this verse:
Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

 

[Alive in Christ]

DHK...

You said...(bolding mine)

Wrap yourself around this verse:
Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

Yes! Amen!

And of course that means all of the redeemed.

 

[Yeshua1]

Sorry, but you are wrong! The bride of Christ does not consist of all the redeemed from Genesis to Revelation or all the redeemed from the cross to the second coming. That is factually not true. Revelation 21:24 demonstrates there are multitudes of "saved" people living on the new earth OUTSIDE the New Jerusalem where the Bride dwells. Revelation 19:8-9 demonstrates clearly there are other saved persons invited to the wedding that are not part of the bride of Christ. Angels are not invited guests as they need no invitation as they are already permenanent residences of the New Jerusalem. The Bridal Psalm demonstrartes these guests are spiritual vigins (saved) outside and apart from what symbolizes the bride.

So the "family" is not equal to the church in this age. Neither is the kingdom equal to the church in this age. BTW the family and kingdom are not synonyms either.

the Bible teaches that there will be those saved out by God under old Covenant, those part of the Body/Bride/Church saved during this era, and those saved in Great Tribulation period!

3 distinct groups, but ALL will be assembles as the "people of God"...