Domestic Division over Syria & Afghanistan.
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Domestic Division over Syria & Afghanistan.
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I remember the conservative reaction when Obama withdrew troops here in the BB. It’s nowhere to be found all of a sudden. Welcome to politics on the BB.
So what? Yes welcome to BB politics.
In both administrative cases I have a dichotomy of thought.
- Glad our soldiers will be out of harms way.
- On the other hand I am concerned that as under the previous administration we will lose the trust of our allies.
- And there is a definite possibility of a resurgence of the local ISIS group and atrocities (beheadings, etc).
Perhaps It should have been a phased retreat with a small group of "advisors" left behind.
The trust of our allies is gone. Pretty sure Mattis is stepping down because of it.
Our so called allies are just getting shown to them that they cannot take us as being doormats any more!
We have destroyed 99% of ISIS and are more ready than ever to deal with a comeback. Let them come back to Syria and show their faces, we can be back there in a matter of hours. BUT "we are not the world's policemen" and have no business getting into the middle of a civil war. How many times has it been said that "we are not the world's policemen" YET nothing is ever done to reverse the practice? All talk but no action until now. Trump meant it.
Sorry to see Mattis act this way rather than get with the program that America comes first and we are done being the world's policemen.
That said, I feel for the Kurds ...BUT it is their civil war, not ours. We have no business getting involved in every civil war across the world while giving away our boys and our money for their battles and protecting their borders while ours gets overrun. Same thing here, they pretend to want to protect our border but never do it, all talk and no action, ...Trump is calling this out per his word and the will of the people also that the fake talk is over, time to get it done! .
Sorry to see Mattis act this way rather than get with the program that America comes first and we are done being the world's policemen.
That said, I feel for the Kurds ...BUT it is their civil war, not ours. We have no business getting involved in every civil war across the world while giving away our boys and our money for their battles and protecting their borders while ours gets overrun. Same thing here, they pretend to want to protect our border but never do it, all talk and no action, ...Trump is calling this out per his word and the will of the people also that the fake talk is over, time to get it done! .
I remember Bush saying “Mission Accomplished” as well. That worked out well.
Yeah, because the build up was ignored and neglected by who? Don't think a resurgence of ISIS will be ignored by this president. And you can bet he won't be sending over planes full of cash to wrong side either...
Lol. It’s literally the same scenario.
If a resurgence of ISIS is not ignored and neglected I fail to see how it is the same. Further, I see no similarity at all with the mindset which sent planes full of cash to those who want to kill us.
Except that now you are the neo-con, no? Just saying, I have not decided about this one.
Except that now you are the neo-con, no? Just saying, I have not decided about this one.
How am I a neocon?
No IMO the trust is not gone but it has been shaken or better yet reminded of a fact given below.
Our alliance with Israel under Obama was shaken, now it is revived.
Mattis is departing because he disagrees with the president's military logistics not because of our relationships with allies.
President Trump is the Commander-in-Chief, Mattis the General. Goodbye to the General.
The one thing President Trump has proven is the fact that the US is basically an isolationist nation the nature of which is related to the POTUS with his political affiliation and world view philosophy. Why not admit to the truth?
And yes, for the most part, according to global optics (or the perception thereof), we are a proud and arrogant nation no matter who is in the WH no matter the point in time of our history. Another truth.
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You are just speculating. We wouldn’t know they were rebuilding until it’s too late.
Certainly wouldn't make it more difficult for them.
If it is not directly beneficial to the American citizen, do not engage. Period
I am a Pat Buchanan isolationists.
Political positions of Pat Buchanan - Wikipedia
Buchanan argues that the United States' ability to control its own affairs is under siege due to free trade ideology, globalism, globalization and other issues, discussed below. He once remarked, "we love the old republic, and when we hear phrases like 'new world order,' we release the safety catches on our revolvers."[94]
Buchanan strongly opposes military interventionism. "Interventionism is the incubator of terrorism," he said in 2001. He approvingly quotes George Washington and Thomas Jefferson regarding the dangers of "entangling alliances" and foreign military adventures.
Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin—from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.[2][page needed]
Since the end of the Cold War, Buchanan has consistently been opposed to U.S. intervention and has advocated a conservative, anti-interventionist foreign policy.
Due to President Trump's policies, etc., our foreign policies are moving in the correct direction.
I am a Pat Buchanan isolationists.
Political positions of Pat Buchanan - Wikipedia
Buchanan argues that the United States' ability to control its own affairs is under siege due to free trade ideology, globalism, globalization and other issues, discussed below. He once remarked, "we love the old republic, and when we hear phrases like 'new world order,' we release the safety catches on our revolvers."[94]
Buchanan strongly opposes military interventionism. "Interventionism is the incubator of terrorism," he said in 2001. He approvingly quotes George Washington and Thomas Jefferson regarding the dangers of "entangling alliances" and foreign military adventures.
Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin—from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.[2][page needed]
Since the end of the Cold War, Buchanan has consistently been opposed to U.S. intervention and has advocated a conservative, anti-interventionist foreign policy.
Due to President Trump's policies, etc., our foreign policies are moving in the correct direction.
I did read it, IMO he didn't author it. Surprise!?