I agree and thank you for drawing people's attention to it!4. Yeah but look at what Obama did.
HankD
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I agree and thank you for drawing people's attention to it!4. Yeah but look at what Obama did.
COLLUSION Mr Mueller?
No ,but he will probably ask the general public that question via twitter.Will that be the Trump defense when Robert Mueller questions him?
It is valid to point out that Obama was never investigated by the FBI for anything he said or did.4. Yeah but look at what Obama did.
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It is valid to point out that Obama was never investigated by the FBI for anything he said or did.
No ,but he will probably ask the general public that question via twitter.
You see, Trump is willing to be calumniated in order to expose the corruption of the establishment.
HankD
Nothing illegal here though!Michael Flynn and other advisers to Donald Trump’s campaign were in contact with Russian officials and others with Kremlin ties in at least 18 calls and emails during the last seven months of the 2016 presidential race, current and former U.S. officials familiar with the exchanges told Reuters.
The previously undisclosed interactions form part of the record now being reviewed by FBI and congressional investigators probing Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election and contacts between Trump’s campaign and Russia.
Six of the previously undisclosed contacts described to Reuters were phone calls between Kislyak and Trump advisers, including Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser, three current and former officials said.
Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy, which both sides considered hostile to improved relations, four current U.S. officials said.
In January, the Trump White House initially denied any contacts with Russian officials during the 2016 campaign. The White House and advisers to the campaign have since confirmed four meetings between Kislyak and Trump advisers during that time.
The people who described the contacts to Reuters said they had seen no evidence of wrongdoing or collusion between the campaign and Russia in the communications reviewed so far. But the disclosure could increase the pressure on Trump and his aides to provide the FBI and Congress with a full account of interactions with Russian officials and others with links to the Kremlin during and immediately after the 2016 election.
The White House did not respond to requests for comment. Flynn's lawyer declined to comment. In Moscow, a Russian foreign ministry official declined to comment on the contacts and referred Reuters to the Trump administration.
The 18 calls and electronic messages took place between April and November 2016 as hackers engaged in what U.S. intelligence concluded in January was part of a Kremlin campaign to discredit the vote and influence the outcome of the election in favor of Trump over his Democratic challenger, former secretary of state Hillary Clinton.
Those discussions focused on mending U.S.-Russian economic relations strained by sanctions imposed on Moscow, cooperating in fighting Islamic State in Syria and containing a more assertive China, the sources said.
Members of the Senate and House intelligence committees have gone to the CIA and the National Security Agency to review transcripts and other documents related to contacts between Trump campaign advisers and associates and Russian officials and others with links to Putin, people with knowledge of those investigations told Reuters.
The U.S. Justice Department said on Wednesday it had appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel to investigate alleged Russian meddling in the U.S. presidential campaign and possible collusion between Trump’s campaign and Russia. Mueller will now take charge of the FBI investigation that began last July. Trump and his aides have repeatedly denied any collusion with Russia.
In addition to the six phone calls involving Kislyak, the communications described to Reuters involved another 12 calls, emails or text messages between Russian officials or people considered to be close to Putin and Trump campaign advisers.
One of those contacts was by Viktor Medvedchuk, a Ukrainian oligarch and politician, according to one person with detailed knowledge of the exchange and two others familiar with the issue.
It was not clear with whom Medvedchuk was in contact within the Trump campaign but the themes included U.S.-Russia cooperation, the sources said. Putin is godfather to Medvedchuk’s daughter.
Medvedchuk denied having any contact with anyone in the Trump campaign.
"I am not acquainted with any of Donald Trump's close associates, therefore no such conversation could have taken place," he said in an email to Reuters.
In the conversations during the campaign, Russian officials emphasized a pragmatic, business-style approach and stressed to Trump associates that they could make deals by focusing on common economic and other interests and leaving contentious issues aside, the sources said.
Veterans of previous election campaigns said some contact with foreign officials during a campaign was not unusual, but the number of interactions between Trump aides and Russian officials and others with links to Putin was exceptional.
“It’s rare to have that many phone calls to foreign officials, especially to a country we consider an adversary or a hostile power,” Richard Armitage, a Republican and former deputy secretary of state, told Reuters.
Donald Trump campaign contacted Russians 18 times in 2016: report
IF Obama or Miss Clinton had been under same standards as trump, both would have been in jail by now!No it is not rare! Nor is it illegal!
Correct. It is not unusual.
Clinton's own record reflects differently - Almost one million miles traveled, having visited 112 countries.
I doubt she was jet-setting to experience foreign cuisine.
The point for the opposition is to RAISE suspicion, with inflamed language and accusations, of Trump or his associates of having any contact with Russia.
The opposition is quite aware of their followers, to hear a suspicion and defend it as a fact.
Free speech, speaking to foreigners is not illegal. I could care less if Trump ever met Putin, dined with him, discussed likes and dislikes, discussed business adventures. I could care less if Trump was probing to see if he and Putin could have an amicable supportive relationship to work against terrorism.
All the crafted suspicions are specifically ABOUT "MONEY". But hey who in the opposition is talking about "MONEY" ? No one! And why not, since "accepting" foreign MONEY, is what POINTS to an illegality! And Trump is WEALTHY! He doesn't need to SET up a FOUNDATION, that accepts FOREIGN MONEY, and receive a SALARY from the FOUNDATION, and use it for campaigning....LIKE SOME PEOPLE, who does NOT want MONEY to be out in the limelight!
So how to create a SCANDAL? Pick a foreign adversary and claim Trump or his associates had conversations with the adversary. And then? IMPLY the conversations were to COAX the adversary, (WHOM the opposition is FURTHER implys, IS COZY with Trump,) to WIN Trump a Presidential election!
LOL seriously? First of all, the opposition (Liberals) have redefined what COZY means, never having revealed Trump meeting Putin or speaking to Putin. Trump himself claimed, he may or may not have met Putin, under circumstances regarding Trump's involvement with pageants. WOW, that's COZY! lol
Secondly ~ Just EXACTLY HOW does the opposition claim Russians RIGGED the US Presidential Election?
LOL seriously? Trump supposedly coheresed, asked, directed, told, ordered, himself or his aides to ask the Russians to RIG the US Presidential Election in his favor?
HOW, would the Opposition EVEN think that possible....or successful....less they had themselves done such a thing?
And? Where is the PROOF, a single piece of evidence Trump did such a thing?
With no evidence of wrongdoing or collusion....WHAT is an investigation based on?
Suspicion? WHAT is the suspicion? 18 calls and electronic messages?
Based on what? U.S. intelligence. Under WHOSE direction to INVESTIGATE Trumps campaign calls and electronic messages? Oh, right, the U. S. intelligence under Obama's administration!
And? According to reports of the calls and electronic messages of those involved....WHAT was the topic of discussion?
OH no.... A willingness for a Russian leader to have civil talks with a potential US President. oh, oh, oh, the scandal! LOL
Why the BIG to do? Under the Obama administration the CIA was directed to record communication between Trump's staff and Russia.... And the CIA have the recordings and transcripts... And the transcripts were given to : (for review)
Transcripts and "other documents". What "other documents" ? How in depth did the Obama administration collude with the CIA to "secretly" probe Trumps activities?
Hmm same defense that the Trump camp is making.He was not being paid by the Russians, not did any of his staff have business ties to Russia. And no one in the Obama administration had worked secretly as a lobbyist for a foreign government.
Hmm same defense that the Trump camp is making.
Nothing illegal here though!
OH, and how do you know that his once staff member Hillary did not have a nefarious financial relationship with the Russians? The multi-million buck Uranium deal doesn't seem to pass the sniff test. In fact IMO it stinks.Hmmmm, but Trump is not telling the truth. But then when does he ever tell the truth. No Russian has ever invested in an Obama business. They have invested at least $100 million in Trump businesses.
?????I have a suggestion for all you Trump supporters......start pulling together, purchase & send to the WH cartons of KY. Might ease the pressure.
Exactly what business does Obama have that Putin would want to invest in ?
OH, and how do you know that his once staff member Hillary did not have a nefarious financial relationship with the Russians? The multi-million buck Uranium deal doesn't seem to pass the sniff test. In fact IMO it stinks.
So lets have Mr Mueller look into the Clinton Foundation dealings as well. Nothing going on, nothing to fear.
HankD
The Podesta, ad visors to Hillary and Obama had Russian ties. FBI didn't think it worth investigating. IRS used it's influence to harass obamas political enemies. Obama was aware of Hillary illegal server.He was not being paid by the Russians, not did any of his staff have business ties to Russia. And no one in the Obama administration had worked secretly as a lobbyist for a foreign government.
Oh I get it. KY jelly. Pretty funny EWFI have a suggestion for all you Trump supporters......start pulling together, purchase & send to the WH cartons of KY. Might ease the pressure.
Exactly what business does Obama have that Putin would want to invest in ?