So...there is more than one pathway to God...? (I say with sarcasm, knowing your true faith and respecting your candor.)
I have had far too many conversations with people who believe all paths lead to God.
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Dont box me in as a C or an A
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I have had far too many conversations with people who believe all paths lead to God.
I have had far too many conversations with people who believe all paths lead to God.
How about the yellow brick road???
(couldn't resist - I am from Chittenanago!)
Many years ago Dr Lloyd-Jones wrote a book called What is an Evangelical? Interestingly, he denied that title to theistic evolution supporters, but allowed it to Arminians despite being Calvinistic himself.
He recounted how he had been approached by J. Campbell Morgan, minister of Westminster Chapel to join him as associate minister. Campbell Morgan was an Arminian but still believed Lloyd-Jones to be the right man to succeed him.
Ll-J went on to describe how they had had an excellent relationship for several years at the start of WW2, he taking the evening service and Campbell Morgan preaching in the mornings. The only difference, he said, was that C.M. would tell people that Christ had died for them while he would say that Christ died for sinners just like them.
He recounted how he had been approached by J. Campbell Morgan, minister of Westminster Chapel to join him as associate minister. Campbell Morgan was an Arminian but still believed Lloyd-Jones to be the right man to succeed him.
Ll-J went on to describe how they had had an excellent relationship for several years at the start of WW2, he taking the evening service and Campbell Morgan preaching in the mornings. The only difference, he said, was that C.M. would tell people that Christ had died for them while he would say that Christ died for sinners just like them.
atpollard
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Hank DeWeerd likes to say that there is a ditch on either side of the road (spiritual hedonism and legalism) and the Devil doesn’t really care which ditch you run into just as long as he can get you off the road and stuck in the ditch.
With the C&A debate, there is the fatalism of hyper-Calvinism and the man-centric Pelagianism. The classic arguments avoided both ditches and focus on a subtle difference in the Ordo Salutis. We who tread this same well-worn ground should also beware of swerving into a ditch in our enthusiasm to “stay in our lane”.
Silverhair
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If and when I am shown errors then I will adjust my thinking.That does not mean that I will listen to what you think are errors but what are errors in my understanding of scripture.
I do not believe this, though I don't doubt you believe this.
Ultimately it's your circular argument to never change your view and perpetually remain in error.
Silverhair
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Austin you are not the source of all truth although you come across as if you think you are. How many times must I say I will trust the bible and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
What you seem to consider evidence I just might consider to be an opinion. Like it or not, not everyone is willing to follow the view that you hold to.
and that works both ways
Yes, that is it.
He accuses anyone who does not come to "his" truth as thinking they are the source of all truth, and not relying on the Spirit.
So basically the whole confessional church has it wrong, lol.
This is the same as a person claiming God credits man, lol
No one else can understand, only them.lol
37818
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Arguably a mere opinion is an interpertation which the Scripture itself does not explicitly state.
Unconditional election, ". . . elect according to . . ." the Scripture so states.
Limited Atonement, " . . . gave himself a ransom for all . . ." the Scripture also so states.
Unconditional election, ". . . elect according to . . ." the Scripture so states.
Limited Atonement, " . . . gave himself a ransom for all . . ." the Scripture also so states.
Silverhair
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Yes I agree, and that is why this is a discussion board.
Silverhair
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When you do not agree with clear scripture then that would tell me that what you are saying is in error.
It also can mean that you interpret it differently!
SH,
In case you have not noticed most on this thread do not agree that you express a "clear view" of scripture.
Even those that identify as non cals, do not support your ideas.
If the time comes when you want help,most all those on this thread would help, but you think you alone have a direct path to truth.
We are convinced otherwise.
He died for the sheep.
He loved the church, and gave Himself for it.
The difference is,I can walk into any confessional church and be accepted into membership You cannot.
37818
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Yes, not at issue. He also died to be Judge of the perishing. Romans 8:34. He therefore died and arose to be Lord of both the dead and the living, Romans 14:9, Romans 14:11.
Silverhair
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Wow are you questioning my salvation, just a tad arrogant don't you think. Be careful what you say you could get yourself banned.
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Silverhair
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If most of the people on here do not agree with me that really does not bother me as I am not looking for their approval. Now that may sound arrogant to you but as I have studied the bible it has been made clear that the one that I require the approval of is Christ Jesus not man.