eating out on Sundays

[gekko]

sunday is ok.

every other days is as well.
why point out sunday? saturday has been proven over and over to be the jewish sabbath.

they work to provide for their fam's.
which needs to be done.

if something needs to be done (like getting your ox out of a hole) then it is right to do.

going to the casino for self is not.

 

[Spoudazo]

Trying to compare Jesus' words against the Pharisees against those who wish to not go out on Sunday is rather a weak argument.

During the Lord's earthly ministry, there wasn't a "church" to go to. If you wish to go out, that's fine, if you don't then don't.

I don't work on Sundays or Wednesdays, and it would be hyprocritical of me to tell people to not work and miss church and then go out and buy stuff from them who are working. I do now and then, but try to avoid it.

 

[Hope of Glory]

Every place I've ever worked or managed has made efforts to accomodate those who don't want to work on Sundays.

But, one problem is that no one wants to work on Sundays because tips are lousy.

 

[rbell]

But, one problem is that no one wants to work on Sundays because tips are lousy.

I have two college students in my ministry who wait tables. They have told me this more than once.

 

[ACADEMIC]

Trying to compare Jesus' words against the Pharisees against those who wish to not go out on Sunday is rather a weak argument.

During the Lord's earthly ministry, there wasn't a "church" to go to. If you wish to go out, that's fine, if you don't then don't.

The Jews went to synagogue on Saturday.

For both those who induce and those who operate under guilt-trips about Sundays, the comparison is, in fact, very strong.

If sin is anywhere, it is on our hands for being stuck in tradition and equating our tradition with God's commands and for not having, say, Friday and Saturday night services.

 

[corndogggy]

why point out sunday? saturday has been proven over and over to be the jewish sabbath.

I'm not all that concerned with working on Sunday in any form, it's the missing of church services that I'm concerned with, and most baptist churches have church on SUNDAY. I just don't want it to be on my conscious that I had a part in making somebody miss out on church on Sunday just because I felt like getting some good grub at the restaurant.

 

[rbell]

we're fortunate here...I know of three area churches (there may soon be four, if we join the mix) that have Saturday evening services.

Our Wednesday night service for students is a full-blown worship event.

So around these parts, several options exist.

I know that many other areas are not so fortunate.

 

[corndogggy]

Every place I've ever worked or managed has made efforts to accomodate those who don't want to work on Sundays.

That's the way that I would want my restaurant. However, surely you realize that not everybody at every place does this. Maybe I was just highly unlucky and had a bad experience, but I'm still not going to go out to eat on Sunday's.

As for the previous comment about me making my wife cook 3 meals... it doesn't quite work that way. I know how to cook just fine and I enjoy it. We don't usually cook with any significant effort for breakfast and lunch anyway. We cook a serious meal for dinner, but breakfast and lunch is just quick lighter stuff... fruit, sandwiches, oatmeal, things like that.

 

[EdSutton]

Do your cows force you to regularly skip church and work all day? I'm guessing not. Why? Because I grew up in a farming community. My grandfather raised cows, we built our house in a cow pasture, fencing them off of course. The people across the road from me farmed cows. The people on the farm behind me raised cows. Cows cows and more cows everywhere, thousands of acres. You know what? Every one of those guys were always in both Sunday school and church and was around for fellowships afterwards.

Obviously my biggest problem isn't the fact that any work is done on a Sunday, it's the fact that I don't want to be a part of forcing people to skip church for no good reason other than my own pleasure.

No, the cows do not "force me to regularly skip church', as a rule. But that is beside the point.

With all due respect, you did not say, prior to this, "forcing people to skip church for no good reason other than my own pleasure", that I recall, or if you did, I missed it. But you have mentioned on this thread no fewer than a dozen times, something about working on Sunday. Nevertheless, let's try this on for size. So if I don't go to the restaurant, until say, 2 P.M. local time on a Sunday, that would be O.K., but if I were to arrive at, say, 12:30 P.M., that's not O.K.?? How about between the hours of, say, 5:30P.M. to 8 PM? Would that be OK? Is the AM servive somehow more 'holy' or more 'important' than the PM service? What about a church that does not have PM services? Something isn't adding up. What am I missing here?

BTW, did you bother to read the post #29 where I cited a couple of passages of Scripture? Just out of curiosity.

Ed

 

[corndogggy]

I dunno, I'm asking you, you're the one with all the answers. :thumbs:

 

[Spoudazo]

The Jews went to synagogue on Saturday.

For both those who induce and those who operate under guilt-trips about Sundays, the comparison is, in fact, very strong.

If sin is anywhere, it is on our hands for being stuck in tradition and equating our tradition with God's commands and for not having, say, Friday and Saturday night services.

The use of the synagogue came from tradition and not from the scriptures. However, many times the Lord blessed the synagogue with His presence, so I'd say it was a good thing for sure. We go to church because that is what Christians want to do.

Hebrews 10:25<---Still applicable these days.

 

[pinoybaptist]

Quite honestly I thought that all baptists were at least "supposed" to think that you shouldn't work on Sundays if you can keep from it.

Also wanted to point out that I haven't been in this situation in over 10 years, just wondered what other people thought.

Well, my wife and I make it a point to eat out on Sundays whenever we can afford it, because we both worked Mondays to Saturdays and our days off are one weekday each week (mine Tuesdays, hers Fridays) and Sundays. This is when I was working, down in DC, before we moved up to WNY.

And so Sundays, we're both relaxed, had been to church, and ready to enjoy a good meal with each other. Sometimes we eat lunch, and dinner, too, and if we really had the money, the in-betweens.

We see hard working people in the restaurants we eat in, but never in a million years did we in our hearts and minds condemn these people for working Sundays, for various reasons, some of which are:

1. They may not be "believers";
2. Or even if they were, who were we to force our beliefs on them ?
3. We may ourselves find it necessary to work on a Sunday, either at a salary paying job, or maybe a farm, or maybe something heavy to do at home.

Keep in mind that we are not under the law, and if we insist on keeping the law, then we need to keep the law in all points, because the Bible tells us breaking one, is breaking all.

There is One who kept the law in all points for His people, and we are all Hid in Him.

Is this to say that we can now fornicate, or steal, or sin as much as we want to ?

No. Far from it. It means we are to regard the law as good, just, and holy, precisely because we could not keep it ourselves. The law still stands, but no longer as our measuring stick.

Christ is now our Standard.

So, cheer up and chin up. Those who "force" you, as you said in one of your posts, to not work on Sundays are hypocrites, or misled.

 

[SBCPreacher]

As a rule, we do not eat out on Sundays. We try not to go to any store at all. It's just our preference, and we condemn no one who chooses otherwise. We don't want to be the cause of someone having to work instead of being in church. I know that others will be there causing them to have to work, but we just don't want it to be us.

Just a preference. Besides that, there's 6 of us, and that gets real expensive! (Not all preachers are making 6 figures, you know!) But even if we could afford it, we still wouldn't on Sundays.

 

[Gib]

Besides that, there's 6 of us, and that gets real expensive!

Thank goodness for Chef Boyardee :type:

 

[El_Guero]

Great!

You can do like chick filet and stay closed on sundays.

Wondered what everybody thought about going out to eat on a Sunday. I know it's traditional baptist culture to go eat before or after church, maybe both in some rare cases. It's all viewed as innocent family time, especially since alot of people who go out to eat don't want to work, or even refuse to work, on a Sunday.

However, I wanted to enlighten you in regards to the other end of the stick that you may or may not have considered before. By going out to eat on a Sunday, not only are you potentially forcing somebody to work on a Sunday against their will, but there's a good chance that you are forcing them to miss church.

I say this because I used to be one of these people, I'm not just making stuff up. I was trying to put myself through college, working at a Shoney's (like Denny's) that had a breakfast buffet. I couldn't understand how those same people who were so adamant about not working on a Sunday could just pack the restaurant and force us to work. I did not have enough seniority to get a different schedule. Other jobs didn't pay as well so I'd have to work more hours, which would mess up college, and they were about the same situation on Sunday's anyway.

It is my dream to open up my own restaurant, and my #1 rule is that no worker of mine will ever have to work a Sunday shift if they don't want to. I may actually just totally close it down on Sundays. To this day I won't go out to eat on a Sunday, I don't want to make other people work. Just wondering if anybody else feels the same way about this.

 

[corndogggy]

We don't want to be the cause of someone having to work instead of being in church. I know that others will be there causing them to have to work, but we just don't want it to be us.

Yep, that's how I feel.

 

[El_Guero]

Now this sounds like an older school preacher . . .

As a rule, we do not eat out on Sundays. We try not to go to any store at all. It's just our preference, and we condemn no one who chooses otherwise. We don't want to be the cause of someone having to work instead of being in church. I know that others will be there causing them to have to work, but we just don't want it to be us.

Just a preference. Besides that, there's 6 of us, and that gets real expensive! (Not all preachers are making 6 figures, you know!) But even if we could afford it, we still wouldn't on Sundays.

 

[SBCPreacher]

Now this sounds like an older school preacher . . .

WOW! Now I'm older school! That's OK. Just don't call me OLD!

Hey, El, What's "younger school" like? I might want to go there and learn.

 

[El_Guero]

Sleep in on Sundays . . . watch what's his face outa Houston . . .

Any more than that might start a feud . . . .

 

[AntennaFarmer]

My sweetheart works in the restaurant & deli section of a large grocery store. Some time back I asked her what she thought about working on Sunday. I got an ear full.....

She would love to have off Sundays. However, if anyone asks off Sunday then that puts the burden on others. Even folks who don't attend Church want to have Sunday off because that is the best day to spend with family. For that reason alone she is reluctant to ask for Sunday off. She doesn't want hard feelings among her co-workers.

She also believes that if a worker insists on having off Sundays to go to Church then any supposed protection under the law is moot because the company can find some excuse to fire her (most of those laws exclude food service workers anyhow).

Sunday is the busiest day. Sunday would not be the busiest day if it wasn't for the "Church people" who come in after morning services.

She says "Church people" are the most demanding and rude customers. I would guess it is because they are in a hurry to get home to have a nice quiet dinner with their families.