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Ed Young Jr on the warpath

Grasshopper

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InTheLight said:
I'm non-Cal but don't know anything about Ed Young Jr., except for what I viewed in the video clip. Based on that scant evidence, no, I would not respect him as a pastor/teacher.
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Google "Ed Young scandal" and see what you get. I don't think the non-Cals would be defending him if they did.

By the way, I don't mind listening to those who teach against Calvinism as long as they use scripture to do it with. It is the way he did it that should rub all of us the wrong way. ( and yes, I would like to think I would be consistent if the roles were reversed).
 
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Havensdad said:
We are commanded to expose and rebuke false teachers. Exposing false teachers and heretics (like Young and Osteen) is not gossip.

Shame on you, for criticizing the use of discernment and the attacking of false teachers!
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I am sure paul heard the same complaint, that he was not to judge, and to loosen up, after all its 'just a different interpretation!"
 
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HeirofSalvation

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Grasshopper said:
Google "Ed Young scandal" and see what you get. I don't think the non-Cals would be defending him if they did.

By the way, I don't mind listening to those who teach against Calvinism as long as they use scripture to do it with. It is the way he did it that should rub all of us the wrong way. ( and yes, I would like to think I would be consistent if the roles were reversed).
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Well, as long as our "Calvinist brethren" will selectively edit the entirey of his sermon....we have no concrete idea what it was he was saying....it's no problem, they do it all the time....There would be far fewer of them, if they were an honest lot.
 
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Grasshopper said:
Google "Ed Young scandal" and see what you get. I don't think the non-Cals would be defending him if they did.

By the way, I don't mind listening to those who teach against Calvinism as long as they use scripture to do it with. It is the way he did it that should rub all of us the wrong way. ( and yes, I would like to think I would be consistent if the roles were reversed).
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Never mind, I see
 
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HeirofSalvation

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Amy.G said:
He would be taken more seriously if instead of an angry rant he actually made a biblical case against Calvinism. :rolleyes:

If I had been sitting in the pew and knew nothing of Calvinism, I wouldn't have a clue why he was so mad.
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Of course, he wasn't trying to make a "Biblical case" against "Calvinism" per se...he was warning only about the perceived dangers, at least in his Point of view about what certain consequences might be...and he gave (a very limited) number of examples.....Your next objection? Then, again.....you haven't heard the entire sermon either, as I have not, as no Calvinist here has bothered to try to furnish it....why would they? There is no interest, none, whatsoever, in exploring the sum total of ALL of what he was attempting to convey here. It does NOT, serve Cal purposes to link all of it....they would only want you to hear what the "Puritan Board" group wants you to hear, and they "want" you to hear what they posted....and what I assume the Almighty James White responded to, no more, no less.
 
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HeirofSalvation said:
Well, as long as our "Calvinist brethren" will selectively edit the entirey[sic] of his sermon....we have no concrete idea what it was he was saying....it's no problem, they do it all the time....There would be far fewer of them, if they were an honest lot.
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Those 12 minutes of rant is what needed to be focused upon. He disgraced the pulpit.
 
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HeirofSalvation said:
Of course, he wasn't trying to make a "Biblical case" against "Calvinism" per se...he was warning only about the perceived dangers, at least in his Point of view about what certain consequences might be...and he gave (a very limited) number of examples.....
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He is full of bombast. He substaniated nothing but his own arrogance and ignorance.

Then, again.....you haven't heard the entire sermon either, as I have not,
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again,that 12 minute rant was the focus of James White. I am sure Mr. Young did not say he was sorry for his juvenile tactics earlier.
 
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HeirofSalvation said:
Of course, he wasn't trying to make a "Biblical case" against "Calvinism" per se...he was warning only about the perceived dangers, at least in his Point of view about what certain consequences might be...and he gave (a very limited) number of examples.....Your next objection? Then, again.....you haven't heard the entire sermon either, as I have not, as no Calvinist here has bothered to try to furnish it....why would they? There is no interest, none, whatsoever, in exploring the sum total of ALL of what he was attempting to convey here. It does NOT, serve Cal purposes to link all of it....they would only want you to hear what the "Puritan Board" group wants you to hear, and they "want" you to hear what they posted....and what I assume the Almighty James White responded to, no more, no less.
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It was bad enough to be exposed to 12 minutes of this fraud.Who would want to listen to anything he has to say. Why would anyone want to furnish anything. he offered no exposition of any text, just his own ignorant musings.
 
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Benjamin said:
It was clearly unacceptable preaching...He should have been able to do a much better job at trashing the Determinist' agenda.

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He would ,if he could, but he can't. Just like you Benjamin.....you cannot begin to address the issue scripturally. Instead you attempt to speak condescendingly to any who have come to these truths.
You speak as an adversary like this imposter did.
 
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mandym said:
Pot meet kettle.......
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If you offer a scriptural position...it will be answered with a scriptural response. You do not seem to offer that much scripture....just these quips,yet you claim you do.

When someone speaks as an adversary...they get answered as an adversary;
8 We therefore ought to receive such, that we might be fellowhelpers to the truth.

9 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.

10 Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.

11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

12 Demetrius hath good report of all men, and of the truth itself: yea, and we also bear record; and ye know that our record is true.
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Of course, he wasn't trying to make a "Biblical case" against "Calvinism" per se...he was warning only about the perceived dangers, at least in his Point of view about what certain consequences might be...and he gave (a very limited) number of examples.....Your next objection? Then, again.....you haven't heard the entire sermon either, as I have not, as no Calvinist here has bothered to try to furnish it....why would they? There is no interest, none, whatsoever, in exploring the sum total of ALL of what he was attempting to convey here. It does NOT, serve Cal purposes to link all of it....they would only want you to hear what the "Puritan Board" group wants you to hear, and they "want" you to hear what they posted....and what I assume the Almighty James White responded to, no more, no less.
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{Iconoclast} It was bad enough to be exposed to 12 minutes of this fraud.Who would want to listen to anything he has to say. Why would anyone want to furnish anything. he offered no exposition of any text, just his own ignorant musings.
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:laugh: You actually have no idea how self-defeating your post is here do you. It's kind of humorous....you are demonstrating the validity of my point, but you are unaware of it. :laugh:
 
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he was warning only about the perceived dangers, at least in his Point of view about what certain consequences might be
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:laugh::laugh::laugh: yeah right....nice try:wavey:
 
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Steadfast Fred

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Ed Young, Jr. lost me when one of his videos had him making his church members give him their bank account numbers and pin numbers so he could make sure he got their tithes.
 
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