Originally posted by Fat Eagle:
Some Charismatics and faith word teachers may teach false things but their salvation is not the question. After all some baptist teach heresy and false doctrine such as tongues are of the devil and the Gifts are not for today so they also would be considered heretic and preaching another Jesus if we judged everything on what folks teach. I do not believe this for I believe that all that confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior and repent of their sins are saved even if they do have some wrong headed teachings no matter Charismatic, Baptist or whatever they wish to call themselves.
These men teach that Jesus discarded His divine powers and walked earth as a man ONLY. (This is the false kenosis theory that came out of Lutheranism in the 19th century. They do not teach that His blood atoned. They teach He took upon Himself the sin nature of Satan. This caused His spirit to die. They openly embrace the exemplary view of the atonement, not the substitutionary view of the atonement. (Denying substitutionary atonements means one does not believe Jesus died for your sins). They teach that sin is not the problem, loss of dominion over the earth is the problem. They teach Jesus is a born-again man, very similar to Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses, because this blends Adoptionism and Socinianism. They do not trust in Christ alone for salvation. Those that teach this are teaching a false gospel and a false Christ. They deny key core doctrines that go well beyond ordinary Pentecostalism, Arminianism, Calvinism, even Catholicism. They believe in a blended form of Gnosticim, Kenosis, and Adoptionism, and especially Socinianism, all of which were condemned as heresies by the early Church. Some are Oneness Pentecostals, thus they believe in modalism. I believe that some may be Christians in error. However, if they persist in their teachings and do not repent, that would qualify them for 1 John 2:19 status, IMO.
