Election: A Glorious Truth for all Christians

[pinoybaptist]

I've noticed that Calvinists and Doctrines of Gracer's absolutely reverse the scriptures. They say exactly the opposite of what the scriptures say.

Calvinists say a man is regenerated by the Holy Spirit which gives them the gift of faith whereby they are able to believe the word of God. This is exactly the opposite order of what Ephesians 1:13 says.

I am amazed at the depth of how well you have psychoanalyzed the character of Calvinists and Doctrines of Gracers.
You are a very wise man.

 

[AresMan]

I not only have not refused to answer this, it has been answered multiple times.

John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

The scriptures clearly say that "every man" that has been taught, hath heard, and hath learned of the Father comes to Jesus.

You cannot come to Jesus unless you first hear of him. You hear of Jesus through the scriptures, the word of God. And the scriptures clearly teach that faith comes through hearing the word of God. Nowhere do the scriptures teach that a man is regenerated by the Holy Spirit to have faith. In fact, the scriptures teach that a man first hears the word of God, then believes, and then only after believing receives the Holy Spirit. This has been shown to you and the others [personal attack removed]

John 6:45 is consistent with John 6:37,39, and 44. To me the verse clearly expresses sovereign grace and is a reference to Isaiah 54:13. I use this verse a lot to argue my position.

The "they all" are the "all that the Father giveth me" (John 6:37) and the ones from the set of "no man can come" that the Father "draws" (John 6:44).

Verse 45 is a support and explanation for verse 44. "Taught of God" does not mean "taught about God." It means "taught from God." "Learned of the father" does not mean "learned about the Father." It means "learned from the Father." Both God and Father in this verse are in the genitive case, which is possessive. Also, the taught and the learned here are parallel and essentially synonymous. Those who learn are not a subset of those who are taught. These are one and the same. This verse makes a striking case for sovereign grace. God the Father teaches a certain people and all whom He teaches come to Him.

No one can come to the Son unless the Father draws (helkusē: "drags") him. The one whom the Father draws will be raised up at the last day. Immediately following this statement, Jesus supports it with a quote from prophesy about Yahweh teaching His children. This cannot be anything other than an effectual drawing.
Those whom the Father draws He teaches.
Those whom the Father teaches learn.
Those who learn, the Father gives to the Son.
Those whom the Father gives to the Son come to the Son.
Those whom the Father gives to the Son will never be lost.
Those who come to the Son believe on Him.
Those who believe on Him will never be cast out.

This is an unbreakable chain of God's grace.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

I've noticed that Calvinists and Doctrines of Gracer's absolutely reverse the scriptures. They say exactly the opposite of what the scriptures say.

Calvinists say a man is regenerated by the Holy Spirit which gives them the gift of faith whereby they are able to believe the word of God. This is exactly the opposite order of what Ephesians 1:13 says.

I have said many times before that regeneration and sealing are two different things. The Holy Spirit seals those that are His. The Holy Spirit makes them His through regeneration.

It doesn't bother them in the least to teach exactly the opposite of what scripture says. Now, that is bold indeed.

I have yet to be convinced that sovereign grace is the "opposite" of what the Scriptures teach.

Calvinists and DoGs teach that a man is given faith through grace, again exactly 180 degrees opposite of what the scriptures say.

Faith is the channel through which grace comes upon man. That does not mean that the faith originates from man as a synergistic contribution.

What the scriptures say:

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Yes, we are saved by grace, but that grace is received "through faith".

Here is how a Calvinist understands this verse:

For by faith are ye saved through grace

That is how a Calvinist and Doctrine of Gracer understands, and it is exactly 180 degrees opposite of what the scriptures say.

No. Read the verse carefully.

τη ("[the]") γαρ ("for") χαριτι ("by grace") εστε ("are") σεσωσμενοι ("ye have been saved") δια ("through") της πιστεως ("[the] faith")

Faith is the channel through which grace comes. Grace is the causative agent here and it is in the dative case. Faith is in the genitive case, making it possessive. God gives grace through the channel of faith which one possesses.

Now, how does one possess faith?

2 Thessalonians 3:2 says "for all men have not faith." In the Greek it is ου γαρ παντων η πιστις or literally "for not of all is [the] faith." The word pastwn is pas in the genitive case. This clearly states not all possess the faith. This faith is the channel ("dia") by which God gives grace.

Now, let's look at Philippians 1:27-29:

Phi 1:27 Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;
Phi 1:28 And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of [from] God.
Phi 1:29 For [because; how this is realized] unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

These verses say that the same gospel is a token of perdition to certain adversaries as well as salvation from God to the Philippians. Paul emphasizes that the salvation is of God. God is in the genitive case denoting either possession or source. However, the preposition apo ("off/out of/from") means that the genitive case denotes source.

Paul then explains in the next verse how this salvation is from God. He says for (or because) "unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ... to believe on him." The word given is the Greek word εχαρισθη, which is the verb form of grace. This word has the same root as grace in Ephesians 2:8. Literally, Paul is saying "unto you it is graced." What is "graced"? What is the direct object of εχαρισθη? They are the words πιστευειν (pisteuein) and πασχειν (paschein). Both of these are infinitives (which always function as nouns). In the Greek (and in English) these are grammatically direct objects of "graced". In other words, the salvation comes from God in this way: unto us He graces us to believe on Him and to suffer for His sake.

I see no discernment or understanding of scripture from Calvinist's and Doctrines of Gracers. It is amazing that they understand scripture completely opposite of what it is easily understood to say.

I hope I have provided some insight for you to rethink that accusation.

 

[Robert Snow]

So when a fellow Arminian like Mr. Mitchell says things like this to me :"Your poor view of the sovereignty of God." Is that acceptable to you?

I wasn't defending Revmitchell, but calling him, or any other brother in Christ a liar is going too far.

I am certainly no theologian, like many here are, and I will probably never have the biblical knowledge they have, but one thing I think is the problem.

When we have to set love aside to defend a biblical doctrine, something is wrong. There are probably as many true believers in Christ who reject Calvinism as there are who accept it. This should cause the one defending Calvinism to at least entertain the possibility that they could be wrong.

Anytime we, on both sides, allow our emotions (especially pride) to override our love for the brethren we have headed in the wrong direction.

 

[AresMan]

I wasn't defending Revmitchell, but calling him, or any other brother in Christ a liar is going too far.

I am certainly no theologian, like many here are, and I will probably never have the biblical knowledge they have, but one thing I think is the problem.

When we have to set love aside to defend a biblical doctrine, something is wrong. There are probably as many true believers in Christ who reject Calvinism as there are who accept it. This should cause the one defending Calvinism to at least entertain the possibility that they could be wrong.

Anytime we, on both sides, allow our emotions (especially pride) to override our love for the brethren we have headed in the wrong direction.

Excellent post. :thumbs:

 

[sag38]

Funny how AsteriskTom posted his sermon declaring what he believes to be the aboslute truth and sparking off nine pages of back and forth between the two camps and has yet to responded in any way.

 

[asterisktom]

Funny how AsteriskTom posted his sermon declaring what he believes to be the aboslute truth and sparking off nine pages of back and forth between the two camps and has yet to responded in any way.

What do you want me to say? This is not something I feel the need to argue about, and that is the direction this topic has taken. Otherwise I would have probably added to the discussion.

 

[Winman]

No one can come to the Son unless the Father draws (helkusē: "drags") him. The one whom the Father draws will be raised up at the last day. Immediately following this statement, Jesus supports it with a quote from prophesy about Yahweh teaching His children. This cannot be anything other than an effectual drawing.

Yes, it is true that all who come to Christ are drawn. No non-Cal disagrees with this whatsoever. This is why it does not rob God's sovereignty to respond to God's drawing. If he did not draw and call us to begin with, we could not respond. So if we come, God still gets all the credit. This is a concept Calvinist's cannot seem to grasp.

But the scriptures say Christ draws all men, not just the elect.

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

This is another case where Calvinism teaches the opposite of scripture. This verse says Jesus will draw all men to him, a small child could easily understand this verse. But Calvinists understand this not to be all men, but only a few select persons.

I have said many times before that regeneration and sealing are two different things. The Holy Spirit seals those that are His. The Holy Spirit makes them His through regeneration.

Well, you may say that, but you have not one verse of scripture to support this. You did not learn this from scripture. Even Old Regular and others here understand regeneration to mean being born again. Calvinism teaches that a man is regenerated to have the ability to understand the scriptures, it teaches that regeneration gives the gift of faith to believe the word of God. But this is the opposite of what the scriptures teach. The scriptures teach that a man is born again or regenerated by the word of God, and that a man receives the Holy Spirit after believing the word of God.

1 Pet 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

So again, Calvinism teaches the exact opposite of what the scriptures say.

Faith is the channel through which grace comes upon man. That does not mean that the faith originates from man as a synergistic contribution.

What kind of logic is that? If God gives man faith, then that man is receiving faith through grace. But the scriptures say grace comes through faith, the exact opposite of what you believe.

Rom 5:2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

You cannot enter into God's grace except through faith. But you believe the opposite, that God gives grace which gives man the ability to have faith. How can a man receive a gift from God and that not be grace? Also, note the direction shown in this verse, it says "we" have access "into" grace. It is not showing grace coming to us, it is showing we are moving into grace. You reverse this.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Yes, we are saved by grace, but we only have access to God's grace through faith. This is what the scriptures clearly show in several places, but you teach the exact opposite.

Faith is the channel through which grace comes. Grace is the causative agent here and it is in the dative case. Faith is in the genitive case, making it possessive. God gives grace through the channel of faith which one possesses.

So faith is the channel? Then which do you come to first, faith or grace? You come to faith first, it is your passageway, your channel, your bridge to grace. Again, you reverse the order, the scriptures say we enter into grace through faith, not that we receive faith through grace.

What the scriptures teach:

Faith -------> Grace

What Calvinism teaches:

Grace -------> Faith

If I said I drove from New York to New Jersey through the Lincoln Tunnel and asked you if I came to the Lincoln Tunnel or New Jersey first, you would have no trouble answering correctly. But with the scriptures you reverse this concept to support your doctrine. Once again an example of teaching exactly the opposite of what the scriptures say.

I could go on and on showing examples of how Calvinism and the Doctrine of Grace reverses what the scriptures say.

The scriptures say God is not willing that any man should perish, your doctrine says God is quite willing to let the vast majority of mankind perish.

The scriptures say God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked, your doctrine teaches that he does. I have seen Calvinists say this on numerous occasions.

Doesn't matter, I have noticed that Calvinists and DoGs are impervious to what the scriptures say. Their understanding is dyslexic, understanding scripture to say the exact opposite of what it is easily understood to say.

 

[Benjamin]

He who has the power and authority to give redemption gets the credit regardless of what He requires as a response.

Great definition of election! Also in agreement as mentioned about the necessity of reconciling God’s decision with foreknowledge; the free will response of man does not discount the sovereignty of God or require the man to be agreement to the doctrines of pre-deterministic selective grace, in fact, to do the later makes the Gospel of none effect, the promises meaningless, and implies a characterization to God which would attribute evil to Him which is all far from what the elect should intimately and humbly recognize of our good and loving God of Grace, truth, and judgment. (Deut 32:4)

 

[sag38]

That's ok Tom. Others can do your dirty work for you. Anyone can make their declaration of what they believe to be the truth and then sit back and watch the fireworks. Personally, I think it fits within the parameters of being a troll.

 

[Winman]

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Which occurs first here, repentence or receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost?

But Calvinism teaches the opposite, it teaches that a man cannot repent unless he receives the Holy Spirit first. Again, the exact opposite of scripture.

 

[pinoybaptist]

There are a lot of people on both sides of the soteriological fence that can contribute great and meaningful discussions to this thread and others like it.
The problem is when people like one of the posters here start making comments that makes one side look like scheming, devious, and a deliberate false teacher while he is the one who has all the keys of knowledge and understanding, or at least it is his side of the fence that is really in service to Christ.
That usually takes my goat, personally, and I don't care which side of the fence makes those statements.
Whether you are a Calvinist, an Arminian, a Semi-Pelagian, a Pelagian, a Doctrine of Gracer, or a Doctrine of No-gracer doesn't make a difference in as far as the blood of Christ is concerned and in as far as your eternal redemption is concerned.
There is NOT ONE SOUL here on this board, or anywhere else, that can point to one Scripture that shows that Christ gave up His life on the condition that one be either of those first, or become one of those first.
Therefore either side portraying the other as theologically bumbling idiots is uncalled for.
But if that's how we wish to conduct these discussions, fine with me, let's bring it on, as rough as can be.

 

[Amy.G]

the ministry of John the Baptist is proof that repentance is needed first.

John came to prepare the way for King of Kings.

He did this by preaching a baptism of repentance. One must repent in order to be ready for the gospel.

Mar 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Jesus preached repentance then belief.

Repentance is a change of mind toward God. To repent of sins is to change one's mind about sin and it's effects. So one must change their mind about God, about sin and then they are able to hear and listen to the gospel.

 

[Winman]

The problem is when people like one of the posters here start making comments that makes one side look like scheming, devious, and a deliberate false teacher while he is the one who has all the keys of knowledge and understanding, or at least it is his side of the fence that is really in service to Christ.

Well, I'm pretty positive it is me that you are referring to. Hey, that's fine, I have been accused of being a heretic and blasphemer in the past, didn't bother me one bit, I did't go running to a moderator or administrator. I present scripture, not the writings of men. I tell you how I understand them. You know, it's funny, none of those who disagree with me ever come back and show me how I'm wrong on the scripture.

I don't have a problem with you believing what you will. That is your right, and I believe in freedom of conscience and belief. But if I think it disagrees with scripture, I am going to say something. We are told to contend for the faith.

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

I spent several months debating Calvinists and Doctrines of Gracers here. I did not enjoy it at all. It finally quieted down and I left it alone. Then this fellow comes and writes this post on Election which is really a post about Calvinism. I see Calvinists as very aggressive promoting this doctrine of their's. I do not see that same aggressive behaviour from non-Cals, if you do, then show me.

It is obvious I am not going to change your mind, and that is OK. But there may be others who do not know the scriptures well that need to see an opposing view.

That said, I hardly think I understand all the scriptures. I read almost everyday, and nearly everyday encounter scripture I do not understand. I just pray and ask God to help me understand.

But this doctrine of yours is not hard to show error. I have probably presented hundreds of verses that easily show it so.

If Calvinists are going to keep pushing this doctrine, I am going to resist it.

 

[pinoybaptist]

We are told to contend for the faith against heretics, blasphemers, and others who will subvert the gospel of Christ.
Are we subverting the gospel of Christ as far as you are concerned ?
Are those who agree with Calvin, and those who hold to the Doctrine of Grace, mindless imbeciles, which is how you portray them in your very illustrative language ?
The very first time you started posting here, I knew already you are that type who think anyone who holds to the Doctrine of Grace is a brainless person.
Your type reminds me of my former pastor who in Bible college insisted that John McArthur is a heretic who does not believe in the efficacy of the blood of Christ, and warned that any graduate of the college who becomes an electionist will have his name stricken off the roster.
His animosity towards McArthur drove me to listen, and be converted to the Doctrine of Grace eventually.
I hope you learn to phrase your words in such a way as to reflect your profession of being a follower of Christ, especially when it comes to fellow believers.
I know nothing about you and would like to believe that you're simply just talking too fast ahead of your brain.

 

[asterisktom]

That's ok Tom. Others can do your dirty work for you. Anyone can make their declaration of what they believe to be the truth and then sit back and watch the fireworks. Personally, I think it fits within the parameters of being a troll.

Not dirty work at all. Like I said at the beginning this topic should be a blessing to all Christians. I know it has for me. Apparently you are focused on something else. Have fun.

BTW, most of my posts are on or near the weekend. During the week I have plenty to do grading papers, prepping classes, etc. I just don't have the time then to post. Not everyone has all the time you seem to have.

 

[asterisktom]

..........heheh...........

(see what you've done gone and caused Tom?...heheh...)

Yea, I'm the evil troll. Just ask whatsisname (not going to bother looking it up).

 

[asterisktom]

Then this fellow comes and writes this post on Election which is really a post about Calvinism. I see Calvinists as very aggressive promoting this doctrine of their's.
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If Calvinists are going to keep pushing this doctrine, I am going to resist it.

You are pretty hard core if you think that a post about election is really just Calvinism. I am sure that your Bible has the same election verses that mine has - though probably not underlined.

 

[asterisktom]

A general comment: I really don't like the term Calvinism because there are a few beliefs of Calvin that I disagree with (Paedo-baptism and his views on the Lord's Supper). However, having gone through his excellent Institutes I was surprised and gratified to know that he was not the strict Sabbatarian that many Presbies make him out to be. Of course, the continental Reformers (Luther, Calvin, Zwingli) were less "advanced" then the Reformation 2.0 (so to speak) of the Westminster divines et al of Britain.

I also now don't like the monicker "Doctrines of Gracer" since it shortens to DoG. :smilewinkgrin: In order to stay out of the dog house of some posters here I will just say that I am a Grace Christian. Yes, that sounds pretty good.

 

[AresMan]

Yes, it is true that all who come to Christ are drawn. No non-Cal disagrees with this whatsoever. This is why it does not rob God's sovereignty to respond to God's drawing. If he did not draw and call us to begin with, we could not respond. So if we come, God still gets all the credit. This is a concept Calvinist's cannot seem to grasp.

What you do not seem to be grasping is what I have exegeted from several verses in John 6. You seem to quote selectively from people's full posts and try to rip on those small sections without addressing the actual support in those posts for the quoted sections. Several verses from John 6 that I referenced, exegeted, and summarized seem to support an unbreakable chain of sovereign grace. Please prove that the verses in John 6 do not mean that the exact ones (all of them) who are drawn come to the Son and are raised at the last day.

But the scriptures say Christ draws all men, not just the elect.

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

This is another case where Calvinism teaches the opposite of scripture. This verse says Jesus will draw all men to him, a small child could easily understand this verse. But Calvinists understand this not to be all men, but only a few select persons.

Why is it that John 12:32 is such a predictable knee-jerk answer to John 6:44? Despite the meaning of the Greek word for draw helkuo, despite how it is used in the context of John 6, despite what every instance of helkuo demonstrates throughout the New Testament, the answer to explain away and ignore the strong message of John 6:44 and its context is simply John 12:32 and what one thinks that it says. "All men" in John 12:32 somehow must mean every single individual human being, and therefore draw (helkuo) cannot mean what it clearly means in the Greek.

Let's look at the context of John 12:32 to test your interpretation:

First, the word men is in italics. This means that it was added by the translators. Jesus said that He would draw "all" unto himself. What did He mean by "all"? Are those who were already suffering in Hades (like the rich man) when Jesus made this statement part of the "all"? When Jesus was lifted up on the Cross, did He draw them unto Himself? If the draw in John 12:32 relates to the draw in John 6:44 (which I believe it does), then will those who were in Hades going to be "raised up at the last day"? I think not! Therefore, the "all" in John 12:32 excludes ones who were already in Hades.

Second, many verses can provide meaningful context for John 12:32, including ones from the same chapter.

Isa 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse [Jesus Christ], which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: [see John 12:21] and his rest shall be glorious.

Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh [see John 12:23], and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him [see John 6:44-45].
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Joh 12:19 The Pharisees therefore said among themselves, Perceive ye how ye prevail nothing? behold, the world is gone after him.
Joh 12:20 And there were certain Greeks among them that came up to worship at the feast:
Joh 12:21 The same came therefore to Philip, which was of Bethsaida of Galilee, and desired him, saying, Sir, we would see Jesus [see Isaiah 11:10].
Joh 12:22 Philip cometh and telleth Andrew: and again Andrew and Philip tell Jesus.
Joh 12:23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified [see John 4:23].

Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Joh 12:33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.

What did Jesus mean when He said that He would draw "all" unto Himself? He meant that He would fulfill prophecy that the Gentiles as a group would seek Him and that the Jews as a nation would reject Him. Moreover, He would call a people from every nation and ethnicity, not just a nation of Israel. This does not mean every single individual human being who ever lives. It could not, otherwise you would have to believe that every single person at some time in his life becomes aware of Who Jesus Christ is and what He did on the Cross. If such were the case, then why would we need to evangelize? If everyone at some point in his life obtains all the information he needs for salvation, why is there a need to present this information? The Gospel is very "Calvinistic."


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[AresMan]

Third, this understanding is prevalent throughout New Testament Scriptures.

Joh 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
Joh 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
Joh 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Joh 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

Joh 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

Joh 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
Joh 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have [the Gentile sheep], which are not of this fold [the Jewish sheep]: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd [the church].

Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Rom 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also CALLED: and whom he CALLED, them he also justified [the ones who are called are justified! This is an effectual calling. See 9:24]: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Rom 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
Rom 9:24 Even us, whom he hath called [See 8:30], not OF the Jews only, but also OF the Gentiles?
Rom 9:25 As he saith also in Hosea, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
Rom 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. [These are the elect of the Gentiles]
Rom 9:27 Isaiah also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
Rom 9:28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
Rom 9:29 And as Isaiah said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodom, and been made like unto Gomorrah. [These are the elect of the Jews]

Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the Scripture saith of Elijah? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
Rom 11:3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
Rom 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.
Rom 11:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompense unto them:
Rom 11:10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back always.
Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

1Co 1:31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

1Co 1:1 Paul called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
1Co 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: [Those who call upon the name of Jesus do so because God called them to be saints.]

1Co 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1Co 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1Co 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1Co 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: [Those who are "called" actually become saved! This is the effectual calling.]

1Co 1:30 But of him [God] are ye in Christ Jesus [see Philippians 1:29], who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: [see Ephesians 2:8 and Philippians 1:29]
2Th 2:14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2Ti 1:8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose [see Romans 8:28] and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
2Ti 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
2Ti 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood OUT OF every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Well, you may say that, but you have not one verse of scripture to support this. You did not learn this from scripture. Even Old Regular and others here understand regeneration to mean being born again.

Yes. Regeneration means "born again." One is "born from above" by the Holy Spirit through the Word of God. One is raised to spiritual life. Being born again/regeneration is the new birth (and one does not will his own birth) through which one is illuminated to spiritual truth to the effectual working of faith unto justification. Upon belief and justification, the Holy Spirit seals (keeps) those that are His.

Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior;
Tit 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

I have already explained in the post that you replied to (which you did not completely address) how God gives faith to people. God giving this faith is part of regeneration.

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