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Election spoken of in scripture...like this-

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Benjamin

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Rockson....you keep using the term irresistible grace.
Can you define that term as it relates to scripture and election?
Didn't like this one, huh? :Whistling
Calvinism: Election is the means to Christ.

NonCal: Christ is the means to Election.


Richard Coords - "The criticism against Calvinistic Election is that it represents a severe demotion of Christ:


Arminius explains: “This doctrine is highly dishonorable to Jesus Christ our Savior. ... It denies that Christ is the meritorious cause who again obtained for us the salvation we had lost, by placing him only as a subordinate cause of that salvation which had been already foreordained, and thus only a minister and instrument to apply that salvation unto us.” (Arminius Speaks, p.47, emphasis mine)"
 

Yeshua1

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Hey, I like that word "Determinants" don't think I've ever used it before, will have to keep it in mind, ;) ...but as for your question, ...you don't want know! :Biggrin ...and I think you should probably respect Icon's request to stay on topic.



Well, as for me, I got an inquiry about not having completed some documentation on a patient and I couldn't really tell them I was too bust playing on the Baptist Board, so... :)
So may I assume that you do view 5 pointers as being hard line determinists?
 

Wingman68

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Y1...You have been asked many times to stop tweeting in the middle of the treads like this second list i am posting of your tweets. Stop it
The tread is about scriptural teaching of election...Scriptural? election...not you tweets and thoughts...NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK IF YOU CANNOT BACK IT UP SCRIPTURALLY.
If you must tweet...fine...start your own thread that is just looking for tweets...stay out of Scripture based threads.
Not only is this rude, & arrogant to dress someone down in red letter large font, it certainly isn’t a convincing way to bring anyone to your side of the discussion. Not only that but you have a charming way of posting the ‘funny’ face to others’ posts. Disrespectful. All in all, you have convinced me to run, not walk, away from Calvies. Good thing for you, you have convinced yourself that you are good to go, so rock on, brother. You might, however, want to think about that word LOVE that is incorporated in the arguments of others. So sorry, I don’t have scripture to offer you for my post, which, by the way, is NOT a tweet.
 

Iconoclast

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Not only is this rude, & arrogant to dress someone down in red letter large font, it certainly isn’t a convincing way to bring anyone to your side of the discussion. Not only that but you have a charming way of posting the ‘funny’ face to others’ posts. Disrespectful. All in all, you have convinced me to run, not walk, away from Calvies. Good thing for you, you have convinced yourself that you are good to go, so rock on, brother. You might, however, want to think about that word LOVE that is incorporated in the arguments of others. So sorry, I don’t have scripture to offer you for my post, which, by the way, is NOT a tweet.
For your information...he is on my side of the argument....that has nothing to do with the issue.
Perhaps you might want to read what was posted in red...it could be any color for that matter...it has been addressed often on many threads.
You have an agenda that I do not care about...so good riddance...not playing your little drama.
Your shallow thinking has no place here...I am not here to impress you. Perhaps you need a safe space like these protestors on the news reports.
 

Wingman68

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For your information...he is on my side of the argument....that has nothing to do with the issue.
Perhaps you might want to read what was posted in red...it could be any color for that matter...it has been addressed often on many threads.
You have an agenda that I do not care about...so good riddance...not playing your little drama.
Your shallow thinking has no place here...I am not here to impress you. Perhaps you need a safe space like these protestors on the news reports.

Nice way you have with your friends. A picture of compassion, even to those ‘on your side’. I’m the last person looking for a safe space, so save the bully routine. Have a nice evening.
 

Iconoclast

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Nice way you have with your friends. A picture of compassion, even to those ‘on your side’. I’m the last person looking for a safe space, so save the bully routine. Have a nice evening.
Next time you butt in....try and know what you are talking about.
I have no need to bully anyone...but I see enough of your kind everyday to answer accordingly.
The fact that he has been asked over a dozen times not to do this is why it was addressed as it was. Earlier in this thread I listed seventeen such tweets from this thread alone....they were not in red so you might have missed it.
The truth is the truth regardless if I ordered you to be burnt at the stake or not. That is why your shallow observations show something else.
 

InTheLight

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Next time you butt in....try and know what you are talking about.
I have no need to bully anyone...but I see enough of your kind everyday to answer accordingly.
The fact that he has been asked over a dozen times not to do this is why it was addressed as it was. Earlier in this thread I listed seventeen such tweets from this thread alone....they were not in red so you might have missed it.
The truth is the truth regardless if I ordered you to be burnt at the stake or not. That is why your shallow observations show something else.
Iconoclast....you keep using the term 'tweet'.
Can you define that term as it relates to posting on Baptist Board?

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Wingman68

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Yes. One of the rudest, nastiest, vilest people I have ever known believes in the Trinity. So do I. His negative deportment has nothing to do with that foundational doctrine.
Is there anyone on this board who does not believe in the Trinity? They are not all Calvinists. Thank you for your concern, I truly appreciate it.
 

Iconoclast

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Iconoclast....you keep using the term 'tweet'.
Can you define that term as it relates to posting on Baptist Board?

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Y1.....sends out one sentence, or two sentence tweets...never with scripture, off topic, that derail the threads...see post 82...I listed 17 such tweets.we have asked him dozens of times to stop....he is on the cal side of things, so doctrine is not the issue. It kills the threads.
Keep in mind...everyone occasionally gives a quick answer....but we are speaking of a pattern over years of most every post...
 
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InTheLight

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Y1.....sends out one sentence, or two sentence tweets...never with scripture, off topic, that derail the threads...see post 82...I listed 17 such tweets.we have asked him dozens of times to stop....he is on the cal side of things, so doctrine is not the issue. It kills the threads.
Keep in mind...everyone occasionally gives a quick answer....but we are speaking of a pattern over years of most every post...
Ignore Function.

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