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Elizabeth Warren releases DNA results - Native American heritage

atpollard

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From what I read, she was 8 to 10 generations removed from a “probable Native American” ancestor. One great great great great great great grandparent to one great great great great great great great great grandparent may have been Native American.

I am not sure that qualifies as “proof” to win a million dollar bet.
 

Jerome

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"One Drop" Was Law in Virginia for Much of the Twentieth Century: Virginia's Racial Identity Act 1924-1975

"On March 20, 1924, the Virginia General Assembly passed....SB 219, titled 'The Racial Integrity Act'....The Racial Integrity Act required that a racial description of every person be recorded at birth and divided society into only two classifications: white and colored (essentially all other, which included numerous American Indians). It defined race by the 'one drop rule', defining as 'colored' persons with any African or Native American ancestry. It also expanded the scope of Virginia's ban on interracial marriage (anti-miscegenation law) by criminalizing all marriages between white persons and non-white persons."

"In 1967 the US Supreme Court ruled in Loving v. Virginia that the portion of the Racial Integrity Act that criminalized marriages between 'whites' and 'nonwhites' was found to be contrary to the guarantees of equal protection of citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. In 1975, Virginia's Assembly repealed the remainder of the Racial Integrity Act."

The one-drop policy was waived for some distant descendants of Pocahontas (Mrs. John Rolfe), who were allowed to be classed as 'whites':

The 'Pocahontas Exception' to Virginia's 1924-1975 Racial Identity Act

"Exempted from this racial policing regime were those influential whites, the First Families of Virginia, who proudly claimed Native American ancestry from Pocahontas."
 

Adonia

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I am transancestored. My family lineage says I am French with some Irish, but I really feel like a Dakota Sioux Chief. Yep, that it, a Dakota Sioux Chief and no one can say otherwise.
 

Katarina Von Bora

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"One Drop" Was Law in Virginia for Much of the Twentieth Century: Virginia's Racial Identity Act 1924-1975

"On March 20, 1924, the Virginia General Assembly passed....SB 219, titled 'The Racial Integrity Act'....The Racial Integrity Act required that a racial description of every person be recorded at birth and divided society into only two classifications: white and colored (essentially all other, which included numerous American Indians). It defined race by the 'one drop rule', defining as 'colored' persons with any African or Native American ancestry. It also expanded the scope of Virginia's ban on interracial marriage (anti-miscegenation law) by criminalizing all marriages between white persons and non-white persons."

"In 1967 the US Supreme Court ruled in Loving v. Virginia that the portion of the Racial Integrity Act that criminalized marriages between 'whites' and 'nonwhites' was found to be contrary to the guarantees of equal protection of citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. In 1975, Virginia's Assembly repealed the remainder of the Racial Integrity Act."

The one-drop policy was waived for some distant descendants of Pocahontas (Mrs. John Rolfe), who were allowed to be classed as 'whites':

The 'Pocahontas Exception' to Virginia's 1924-1975 Racial Identity Act

"Exempted from this racial policing regime were those influential whites, the First Families of Virginia, who proudly claimed Native American ancestry from Pocahontas."


True. Excellent post. The thing is, one drop of what? Those folks didn't have a clue that DNA even existed. Today we just can't stop telling lies. Now we have more medical knowledge, but can't manage a society that is civil.

Come Lord Jesus.
 

church mouse guy

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They surrendered and allowed the government to move them 1000 miles to Oklahoma territory.

Not all. The Miamis fought with William Henry Harrison against Tecumseh and the Prophet and they stayed around Peru, Indiana, where the Mississinewa River flows into the Wabash River. Among them was eventually discovered Francis Slocum who was kidnapped from western Pennsylvania as a Quaker child around the time of American independence from Great Britain. Her brothers found her at Peru in 1837, but she wanted to stay there to be buried by her husband Shepoconah, where her grave is to this day. She and her family were exempted from removal to the west in 1845 by Congress. She had only daughters so the major surname of her descendants is Godfroy. Both Pennsylvania and Indiana have state parks named for her. Peru is the County Seat of Miami County, Indiana.
 

Adonia

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It looks like all the real Native Americans are coming out against her latest ploy. The Cherokee Nation and one of the tribes from Western Canada. Poor girl, she just can't get any respect from her claimed "kinfolk".
 

Rockson

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It's only two years from now, she would be a VERY beatable candidate - partisan, shrill, from MA, elitist fodder for Trump.

Biden is the only one who would have a chance - all those people are concentrated heavily in a few states, but he'd have mass appeal in states like PA. Liz is a female Howard Dean and won't make it out of the primaries either.
I can't see Biden doing it because of age. He's 74 now so at 76 he'd be thought of as a potential? Sure President's maybe in their second term were the same age but many don't want the captain changed from the helm when the ship is running basically smooth. IMO
 

carpro

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Sorry, I have a sliver of Native American myself.

If your DNA is evaluated the same way hers was, there's no doubt at all that you can make the same claim she does. So can I. So can every other American.
 

Yeshua1

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True. Excellent post. The thing is, one drop of what? Those folks didn't have a clue that DNA even existed. Today we just can't stop telling lies. Now we have more medical knowledge, but can't manage a society that is civil.

Come Lord Jesus.
She might as well claim to be a descemdent of Jesus Himself!
 

church mouse guy

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I can't see Biden doing it because of age. He's 74 now so at 76 he'd be thought of as a potential? Sure President's maybe in their second term were the same age but many don't want the captain changed from the helm when the ship is running basically smooth. IMO

Interesting CNN poll that shows Biden the favorite for the Dems but Clinton would be the favorite if Biden drops out. Looks as if Warren has self-destructed.

CNN’s most recent national poll of potential 2020 Democratic contenders had Biden with a 20-point lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT). Biden got 33% in the poll while Sanders received 13%. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) was next with 9%, followed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) with 8% and Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) with 5%.

2020: Strategist: Advisers Telling Hillary She Can Win Nom. if Biden Doesn’t Run | Breitbart
 

Yeshua1

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Interesting CNN poll that shows Biden the favorite for the Dems but Clinton would be the favorite if Biden drops out. Looks as if Warren has self-destructed.

CNN’s most recent national poll of potential 2020 Democratic contenders had Biden with a 20-point lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT). Biden got 33% in the poll while Sanders received 13%. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) was next with 9%, followed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) with 8% and Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) with 5%.

2020: Strategist: Advisers Telling Hillary She Can Win Nom. if Biden Doesn’t Run | Breitbart
I always though the logical one to run would be mrs obama, as she would have all of the folks behind her husband opushing her!
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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It looks like all the real Native Americans are coming out against her latest ploy. The Cherokee Nation and one of the tribes from Western Canada. Poor girl, she just can't get any respect from her claimed "kinfolk".
Yes, these self-proclaimed, self-appointed lying-in-wait elitists love to pretend to identify with those they want to rule. But for some reason, they are looked at as being exploitative. Now, is that fair?

What’s funny (as in crazy) is that her base will still likely feel sorry for her. ‘Poor little blonde-haired, blue-eyed Indian maiden being picked on (switch from soothing to harsh tones here) by that mean ol’ paleface president who speak with forked tongue.’
 
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