Entertainment sinful?

[av1611jim]

Jas 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
Jas 4:5
Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
Jas 4:6
But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
Jas 4:7
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Jas 4:8
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
Jas 4:9
Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
Jas 4:10
Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.


Was James a "mere man"? He stated quite clearly the parameters of who is an enemy of God and who is not. I might point out to you that God has called us to point out to our brethren their errors.
Jas 5:19
Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Jas 5:20
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

Your beef then would be with Scripture and not with DHK because all he did was point out to you with Scripture the error of your position. Since you took offense; I would say (from the sidelines ) that perhaps he struck a nerve with you.

So far brother, you have not provided any Scripture to substantiate your position, yet DHK HAS given ample Scripture to prove his point. From my point of view, it is you who are on the unstable ground in this discussion.

For what it's worth.

In HIS service;
Jim

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by av1611jim:
DHK is right.

My question is simply this;

Exactly WHAT did Jesus mean when he said to deny oneself?

What?

Is "entertainment" denying oneself or catering to oneself?


You must ultimately decide this for yourself between God and you.

But know this. We must ALL stand before Christ one day and give account of every MINUTE of our lives as believers.

Will you be able to say on that day, "LORD, I was at that game for your glory."?

In HIS service;
Jim

Jim,

Besides posting on the Baptist Board, which is filled with entertainment, what other purposes do you have for your internet connection.

Joseph Botwinick </font>[/QUOTE]

 

[OCC]

Yes he struck a nerve in me. Because he condemned me as an enemy of God. I provided proof.

He gave ample Scripture that had nothing to do with the issue; Scriptures he violates himself according to his own standard, just by being on the internet. Don't try and tell me I have a beef with Scripture. I have a beef with "certain types of people" who condemn me while violating their OWN false standards of righteousness. Nothing more need be said. DHK made this thing an argument. There is really nothing to argue about. End of discussion.

Your point of view is wrong...and I don't know what it's worth.

 

[av1611jim]

Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by av1611jim:
DHK is right.

My question is simply this;

Exactly WHAT did Jesus mean when he said to deny oneself?

What?

Is "entertainment" denying oneself or catering to oneself?


You must ultimately decide this for yourself between God and you.

But know this. We must ALL stand before Christ one day and give account of every MINUTE of our lives as believers.

Will you be able to say on that day, "LORD, I was at that game for your glory."?

In HIS service;
Jim

Jim,

Besides posting on the Baptist Board, which is filled with entertainment, what other purposes do you have for your internet connection.

Joseph Botwinick </font>[/QUOTE]Brother Joeseph;

To answer your question and (implied) accusation:

I bought this computer for business purposes. That is why I had it loaded with Windows XP professional along with Power Point, Excel, Office, and other such software. I own a home based internet business.

Why am I on the BB? At this time ( and for the last four YEARS) I am in a tiny town with no Bible Believing church to attend. Therefore; I am on the BB to fellowship, preach, and sharpen my Sword skills. Ok?

Iron sharpeneth iron.

Pr 27:17
¶ Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

Fair enough brother?

Rarely is my presence here for "kicks".

In HIS service;
Jim

 

[OCC]

Jim...you have met some iron that will sharpen iron.

Nice explanation by the way. Maybe I go to a baseball game to do business.

"Why am I on the BB? At this time ( and for the last four YEARS) I am in a tiny town with no Bible Believing church to attend. Therefore; I am on the BB to fellowship, preach, and sharpen my Sword skills. Ok?" Was that "Ok?" put there sarcastically?

 

[OCC]

"Rarely is my presence here for "kicks"."

But sometimes...it is? What percentage of the time? What does "rarely" mean in this case?

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Jim,

Is the Baptist Board your Church? I find that rather sad. Do you only post here on the Baptist Board and do business on your internet connection? Have you ever played a game on the internet? I wonder if I went to the game forum on this discussion board if I would find your name anywhere down there as a participant. Would I?

Joseph Botwinick

 

[av1611jim]

KJ said, "Yes he struck a nerve in me. Because he condemned me as an enemy of God. I provided proof."

I read your so-called "proof". DHk did NOT call you an enemy of God. He said IF you are a friend of CCM then you are an enemy of God. He expressed his opinion about CCM. YOU took it as an attack. He did no such thing.

A little TOO sensitive are we? This IS a debate board.

In HIS service;
Jim

 

[av1611jim]

Originally posted by King James:
Jim...you have met some iron that will sharpen iron.

Nice explanation by the way. Maybe I go to a baseball game to do business.

"Why am I on the BB? At this time ( and for the last four YEARS) I am in a tiny town with no Bible Believing church to attend. Therefore; I am on the BB to fellowship, preach, and sharpen my Sword skills. Ok?" Was that "Ok?" put there sarcastically?

Not sarcastic at all.

In HIS service;
Jim

 

[av1611jim]

Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
Jim,

Is the Baptist Board your Church? I find that rather sad. Do you only post here on the Baptist Board and do business on your internet connection? Have you ever played a game on the internet? I wonder if I went to the game forum on this discussion board if I would find your name anywhere down there as a participant. Would I?

Joseph Botwinick

You MIGHT find a half dozen times I was in the games forum over the last 4 years. But I doubt if it was even that much. I really find no fun in there. Go do a search and let me know, ok?

In HIS service;
Jim

 

[OCC]

Originally posted by av1611jim:
KJ said, "Yes he struck a nerve in me. Because he condemned me as an enemy of God. I provided proof."

I read your so-called "proof". DHk did NOT call you an enemy of God. He said IF you are a friend of CCM then you are an enemy of God. He expressed his opinion about CCM. YOU took it as an attack. He did no such thing.

A little TOO sensitive are we? This IS a debate board.

In HIS service;
Jim

I like CCM music. therefore he called me an enemy of God.

No..not too sensitive. I don't put up with personal attacks.

 

[av1611jim]

BTW Joeseph;

No. The BB is NOT my church.
Here is my church:

www.tvbc.org

Check it out. FYI; God has been so GOOD to my wife and I that we will be returning home in about 4 weeks.

I honestly did not think I was unclear as to why I am on the BB. IT IS NOT CHURCH.

In HIS service;
Jim

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Originally posted by av1611jim:
This IS a debate board.

In HIS service;
Jim

Speaking of which:

A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition.

Do you ever participate in the contest of debate?

Joseph Botwinick

 

[James_Newman]

Originally posted by av1611jim:
BTW Joeseph;

No. The BB is NOT my church.
Here is my church:

www.tvbc.org

Check it out. FYI; God has been so GOOD to my wife and I that we will be returning home in about 4 weeks.

I honestly did not think I was unclear as to why I am on the BB. IT IS NOT CHURCH.

In HIS service;
Jim

if it was, a lot of lady's would have to hush up *ducks*

 

[OCC]

Hey Jim...if you haven't been to church in four years and you come here for your fellowship, etc. THIS is your CHURCH.

Let's see...if one is a conservative or a friend of a conservative then one is a friend of the world and an enemy of God. What do you think of that?

 

[av1611jim]

Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by av1611jim:
This IS a debate board.

In HIS service;
Jim

Speaking of which:

A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition.

Do you ever participate in the contest of debate?

Joseph Botwinick </font>[/QUOTE]That WAS rhetorical was it not?

What is your point? Put it "right across the plate" brother.

In HIS service;
Jim

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Originally posted by av1611jim:
BTW Joeseph;

No. The BB is NOT my church.
Here is my church:

www.tvbc.org

Check it out. FYI; God has been so GOOD to my wife and I that we will be returning home in about 4 weeks.

I honestly did not think I was unclear as to why I am on the BB. IT IS NOT CHURCH.

In HIS service;
Jim

Looks like a good church. I am glad you and your wife will be able to move back home.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[OCC]

"Put it "right across the plate" brother."

Not only sarcastic but it looks like our brother knows baseball terminology which means he knows about the game. The horror...

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Originally posted by av1611jim:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by av1611jim:
This IS a debate board.

In HIS service;
Jim

Speaking of which:

A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition.

Do you ever participate in the contest of debate?

Joseph Botwinick </font>[/QUOTE]That WAS rhetorical was it not?

What is your point? Put it "right across the plate" brother.

In HIS service;
Jim </font>[/QUOTE]Jim,

I am glad you have a good sense of humor. That can be quite entertaining some times. Perhaps, entertainment is not always such a bad thing, right?

Joseph Botwinick

 

[av1611jim]

Originally posted by King James:
Hey Jim...if you haven't been to church in four years and you come here for your fellowship, etc. THIS is your CHURCH.

Let's see...if one is a conservative or a friend of a conservative then one is a friend of the world and an enemy of God. What do you think of that?

Where did I say I have not been to church in four years? How do you suppose I would know there are no Bible believing churches in this town if I had NEVER been to them?

We have traveled back home for our 10 day preaching conferences. I have even been all the way down to Texas for one. We are NOTcompletely apostate! LOL

And just how do you equate this BB with church? That one baffles me.


In HIS service;
Jim