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Why not, John?
I would certainly enjoy the reading, and would count it as education for the readers.
Thanks for the kind words, but actually, I don't think I can take the time. This is an extremely busy week here with a missionary conference the first half and a "youth summit" the second half.
Ok, I understand being in such an estate.
As long as you take time to redeem the time.
No. We are not kidding you. We simply followed up a commentary you recommended in connection with the Hebrew grammar of the 70 weeks of Daniel.
Prophecy 70 asked said:
John said:
But the part you quoted:
doesn't mention the 70 weeks. Your own post proves John right and you wrong.
prophecy70
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You have never heard of a shooting star? Did you grow up in a cave?
The point was.... robycop3 is a literalist, a shooting star/ a meteor is not a star, never was a star and never will be a star.
So Im trying to figure out where he draws his line between what he keeps saying is literal and what he believes is symbolic. If matthew 24 has to be literal why can't this this be the same?
Seventy weeks are..........
For at least the last two centuries, commentators have told us that the word "are" is in the original singular. That you cannot say in English, "Seventy years is". It signifies a single period.
For at least the last two centuries, commentators have told us that the word "are" is in the original singular. That you cannot say in English, "Seventy years is". It signifies a single period.
As I said in Revelation one, stars are shown as people.
Do we not use the same figure today?
But the part you quoted: doesn't mention the 70 weeks. Your own post proves John right and you wrong.
You cannot be serious!
Didn't you "click to expand" to see that I quoted John's whole post - after quoting prophecy70's post about the 70 weeks to which John replied with a helpful reference to an appropriate commentary?
Had you clicked to expand, you would have read that John wrote,
"3. Worst of all, your interpretation has the Messiah making a covenant for 7 years, but then breaking it halfway through. In other words, you have Jesus breaking His promise, and that is impossible!"
which obviously mentions the 70 weeks. And the reference to;"the Hebrew in this passage"
is a reference to the 70 weeks, which is the passage under discussion. I don't mind being proved wrong, but not when I'm in the right.
prophecy70
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But the part you quoted: doesn't mention the 70 weeks. Your own post proves John right and you wrong.
That was the whole topic of conversation, and he wanted me to read the K&D commentary on the 70 weeks of daniel, because I was "thinking in english". The Hebrew in this passage is the 70 weeks passage. So I'm not sure how covenanter is wrong.
That is the commentary he recommended to, within the topic of the 70 weeks.
"Are you kidding me" you told me to look it up, I'm not sure how much clearer that could of been...If that was not your intention JOJ then ok. I just wanted to follow up, that was the last topic we were on, on the commentary you told me to look up.
prophecy70
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I agree, I'm just seeing what robycop3 thinks is literal or not
You need to study Greek a bit harder.
ἀστήρ from στρώννυμι meaning "to spread" as in "to spread across the sky." As the stars look as if they were flung across the heaven by the hand of God.
I am sorry to be the one to tell you, but all of the bright shiny things in the night sky are not great balls of hydrogen. Some of them, in fact some of the most prominent, are rocky or gaseous planets.
So to say "star" only means the "big ball of gas glowing with its own light" is simply a failure to understand the meaning of ἀστήρ.
Now take a close look at the word "asteroid." See the root word is "aster?" Now, I am not sure how much schooling you have had but an asteroid is not a star in the sense of the "big ball of gas glowing with its own light." It is just a rock. And sometimes those rocks hit the earth. (I already posted a picture of Meteor Crater.)
So, it would appear, when examined closely, your thesis fails.
It wouldn't let me edit this,
Some of my post disappeared as I posted it. I finished by saying such as Film Stars, Football Stars etc.
But I am! Quite!
I did.
Nope. John never mentioned the 70 weeks.
Here is what he said:
See? No mention of 70 weeks.
You are not right. You say he said something he obviously didn't say.
What he suggested was that you (the collective "you") read the passage in Hebrew rather than English and recommended K&D as the leading Hebrew experts to be your guild as you read the passage in Hebrew.
You need to study Greek a bit harder.
ἀστήρ from στρώννυμι meaning "to spread" as in "to spread across the sky." As the stars look as if they were flung across the heaven by the hand of God.
I am sorry to be the one to tell you, but all of the bright shiny things in the night sky are not great balls of hydrogen. Some of them, in fact some of the most prominent, are rocky or gaseous planets.
So to say "star" only means the "big ball of gas glowing with its own light" is simply a failure to understand the meaning of ἀστήρ.
Now take a close look at the word "asteroid." See the root word is "aster?" Now, I am not sure how much schooling you have had but an asteroid is not a star in the sense of the "big ball of gas glowing with its own light." It is just a rock. And sometimes those rocks hit the earth. (I already posted a picture of Meteor Crater.)
So, it would appear, when examined cloely, your thesis fails.
Perhaps it means that Baseball Stars will fall to earth.
prophecy70
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You need to study Greek a bit harder.
ἀστήρ from στρώννυμι meaning "to spread" as in "to spread across the sky." As the stars look as if they were flung across the heaven by the hand of God.
I am sorry to be the one to tell you, but all of the bright shiny things in the night sky are not great balls of hydrogen. Some of them, in fact some of the most prominent, are rocky or gaseous planets.
So to say "star" only means the "big ball of gas glowing with its own light" is simply a failure to understand the meaning of ἀστήρ.
Now take a close look at the word "asteroid." See the root word is "aster?" Now, I am not sure how much schooling you have had but an asteroid is not a star in the sense of the "big ball of gas glowing with its own light." It is just a rock. And sometimes those rocks hit the earth. (I already posted a picture of Meteor Crater.)
So, it would appear, when examined closely, your thesis fails.
My thesis fails?
Oh my. You are totally missing the point. The point of this is in Russia and you are on Jupiter.
My actual view of this is they are not anything to do with space, but with people. But thanks for thinking you understood my point.
Asteroids (from Greek ἀστήρ 'star' and εἶδος 'like, in form') Like in form of a star. So your not being literal
Fine, for your totally illogical reasoning of the point I'm trying to get across lets try this one.
Revelations 16:20
Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found.
The point is, if EVERYTHING is literal, why do you need to explain anything?
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NO!!! What John wrote was:
"1. You are thinking in English. Hebrew grammar is quite different. If you have e-Sword, download the K&D commentary, which deals with the Hebrew in this passage."
The commentary does "deal(s) with the Hebrew in this passage" (70 weeks) and the commentators come the the conclusion that we came to from studying the passage in English.
prophecy70
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The whole context of the commentary was the 70 weeks. Where he said This passage was Daniel 9:27, because thats the passage I was talking about.
JOJ said:
"The he in Daniel 9:27, is talking about the Messiah". That was the only passage I was talking about.
Remember convenater this is how scripture is misinterpreted as well
Because you don't seem to understand that "aster" is used of all heavenly bodies, not just stellar bodies. You have been proven wrong. Just learn from it and move on.
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