Essense of God

[Van]

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And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Spirit the God spoke and manifested itself as Light on the earth in contrast to the lord of darkness, the adversary Satan the devil.

Will no one answer the question?

 

[Van]

Genesis 1:3 God spoke [and the Sun became the source of light to the earth.] "Let there be light."

God created His shop light because He did not create the Sun until days later.

What's with all these thread closings?Are there total page limits?

Many of my threads are closed because Calvinists post insensate gibberish to cause them to be closed.

 

[BasketFinch]

God created His shop light because He did not create the Sun until days later.

Many of my threads are closed because Calvinists post insensate gibberish to cause them to be closed.

Such anger and venom.

Blind to the truth of the reason for closures has already been published by Salty.
Praying Jesus finds you should it be the father's will. John 6:44

 

[Van]

Such anger and venom.

Blind to the truth of the reason for closures has already been published by Salty.
Praying Jesus finds you should it be the father's will. John 6:44

You seem to be willing to pretend you are blind to the truth. So be it.

 

[Van]

The essence of God is the Trinity doctrine, One God in Three Persons. Consider the Third Person of the Trinity, the "Holy Spirit," His person-hood characteristics we all displayed when operating as the Paraclete, or Advocate sent by Jesus.

Is the term translated "Holy Spirit" always referring to the Third Person of the Trinity, or are some references to the Spirit of Yahweh, which could include the actions of the First and Second Persons of the Trinity?

Luke 11:13
“So if you, despite being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?”

Luke 12:10
“And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him.​

Clearly, Luke 11:13 is referring to the Paraclete, the Third Person of the Trinity. However, Luke 12:10 may be referring to the "Spirit of Yahweh" or the Divine Spirit of God. The idea of Luke 12:10, in my opinion is that if you reject that the authenticating miracles of Jesus are evidence of the power from Yahweh, you will not be saved.

 

[37818]

God created His shop light because He did not create the Sun until days later.

No. The two distinct lights we identify as the Sun and Moon became visible as distinct lights days later along with the stars. And we know the distant stars existed long before the six days. Else you make Genesis account not believable.

 

[Van]

No. The two distinct lights we identify as the Sun and Moon became visible as distinct lights days later along with the stars. And we know the distant stars existed long before the six days. Else you make Genesis account not believable.

You said the Sun (not the Stars) became the source of light to the earth when God said let there be light. That was unbiblical.
The Sun became the source of light to the earth days later. So God used His shop light.

 

[37818]

You said the Sun (not the Stars) became the source of light to the earth when God said let there be light. That was unbiblical.

God said "let there be light." There is nothing in the written word of God to disallow God causing our Sun to become a star on the first day. To claim my understanding is unBiblical is a mere assertion.

The Sun became the source of light to the earth days later. So God used His shop light.

The fourth day God made them to be distinct
lights by allowing them to be seen as such. Your "shop light" is what is unBiblical.

 

[Van]

God said "let there be light." There is nothing in the written word of God to disallow God causing our Sun to become a star on the first day. To claim my understanding is unBiblical is a mere assertion.

The fourth day God made them to be distinct
lights by allowing them to be seen as such. Your "shop light" is what is unBiblical.

Of couse the shop light is unbiblical. It was an attempt at humor to address the unknown physical source of the light created in Genesis 1:3. The light for the earth was not created on day one, that is your unbiblical claim, refuted by Genesis 1:15.

And as far as the stars, they were also created on day 4.

 

[Van]

Here is an orthodox illustration of our Trinity's characteristics.

If we add to the center word "God" with "the Spirit of Yahweh" have we advocated heresy?

If we add to the lower description, The Holy Spirit, the Paraclete, have we misrepresented the Third Person of the Trinity?

Is it not true that all three Persons of the Trinity are the Spirit of Yahweh? What verse suggests otherwise?

Is not the Paraclete with which we are indwelt the Third Person of the Trinity? What verse suggests otherwise?

 

[37818]

Of couse the shop light is unbiblical. It was an attempt at humor to address the unknown physical source of the light created in Genesis 1:3. The light for the earth was not created on day one, that is your unbiblical claim, refuted by Genesis 1:15.

And as far as the stars, they were also created on day 4.

That is so irrational. The Andromeda Galaxy is measured to be some two and a half million light years away. While it can be seen in our present time, it and more distant galaxies might no longer exist. Noting the universe ends a mere thousand years after Christ returns. Revelation 20:4-11.

 

[Van]

That is so irrational. The Andromeda Galaxy is measured to be some two and a half million light years away. While it can be seen in our present time, it and more distant galaxies might no longer exist. Noting the universe ends a mere thousand years after Christ returns. Revelation 20;4-11.

God's word is not irrational. God created light for the earth days after He said "Let there be light" according to God's word.

As far as claiming the universe is billions and billions of years old, because of the time it would seem to take to reach us, God could have created light in transit, and thus the light arriving today might have been created less than 7000 years ago. I am not advocating that conjecture, my biblical view is I was not there and I do not know, Job 38.

You indicated you believe there is only one Divine Spirit, but is addressed by many different names. Are you sticking by that?

 

[37818]

God's word is not irrational.

You are being irrational regarding Genesis 1:3-16 . . . .

You indicated you believe there is only one Divine Spirit, but is addressed by many different names. Are you sticking by that?

God is One Spirit. And I understand the Spirit to be God, Christ and Himself as distinct Persons. John 4:24, Romans 8:9 and Romans 8:16.

 

[Van]

You are irrational regarding Genesis 1:3-16 . . . .

And I thought you were better than the name calling Calvinists...

God's word is not irrational. God created light for the earth days after He said "Let there be light" according to God's word.

As far as claiming the universe is billions and billions of years old, because of the time it would seem to take to reach us, God could have created light in transit, and thus the light arriving today might have been created less than 7000 years ago. I am not advocating that conjecture, my biblical view is I was not there and I do not know, Job 38.

You indicated you believe there is only one Divine Spirit, but is addressed by many different names. Are you sticking by that?

 

[37818]

And I thought you were better than the name calling Calvinists...

God's word is not irrational. God created light for the earth days after He said "Let there be light" according to God's word.

As far as claiming the universe is billions and billions of years old, because of the time it would seem to take to reach us, God could have created light in transit, and thus the light arriving today might have been created less than 7000 years ago. I am not advocating that conjecture, my biblical view is I was not there and I do not know, Job 38.

You indicated you believe there is only one Divine Spirit, but is addressed by many different names. Are you sticking by that?

God is One Spirit. And I understand the Spirit to be God, Christ and Himself as distinct Persons. John 4:24, Romans 8:9 and Romans 8:16.

 

[37818]

And I thought you were better than the name calling Calvinists...

So my thinking you are being irrational regarding Genesis 1:3-16 is name calling according to you.

 

[BasketFinch]

You seem to be willing to pretend you are blind to the truth. So be it.

You're calling Salty a liar. That is not all good . That's pathetic.

 

[37818]

You're calling Salty a liar. That is not all good . That's pathetic.

Ah, @Van made that reply to you not @Salty.

 

[BasketFinch]

Ah, @Van made that reply to you not @Salty.

Not at all. You'd know that if you paid attention to the thread .

 

[Salty]

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