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Conan

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I do believe that the Lord still has control over all things and made sure that verses like 1 John 5.7 and 1 Timothy 3.16 are preserved in the KJV
The 2 verses have nothing to do with one another. 1 Timothy 3:16 has a lot of support. By comparision 1 John 5:7 has none. None verses alot. See the difference?
 

Conan

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How many of the modern versions read God in 1 Timothy 3.16?
Has absoloutly nothing to do with it. You were trying to wrongly and foolishly compare 2 different verses one has good support for and some against. The other no real support whatsoever. If you knew textual criticism you would not have compared the different verses
 

Conan

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If you are going to post in public use correct English grammar. It is THREW and not THROUGH :Biggrin

https://www.google.com/search?q=THROUGH&client=ms-android-lge-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
Through
/THro͞o/
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preposition
  1. 1.
    moving in one side and out of the other side of (an opening, channel, or location).
    "she walked through the doorway into the living room
https://www.google.com/search?q=THROUGH&client=ms-android-lge-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
 

SavedByGrace

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Has absoloutly nothing to do with it. You were trying to wrongly and foolishly compare 2 different verses one has good support for and some against. The other no real support whatsoever. If you knew textual criticism you would not have compared the different verses

You mean like you do? :rolleyes:
 

Conan

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You said THROUGH AWAY. the correct English is THREW or THROW AWAY
I gave you a dictionary's definition. Of course only you would reject a dictionary's definition. You moved on through from reason to unreason. You moved through a good side to a bad side.
 

SavedByGrace

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I gave you a dictionary's definition. Of course only you would reject a dictionary's definition. You moved on through from reason to unreason. You moved through a good side to a bad side.

This is what you wrote in # 127, "SBG just through away his freedom for onlyism". the correct English is, "SBG just THREW away his freedom for onlyism". Just admit that you are wrong!
 

DaveXR650

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Our pastor has recently switched from the NKJV to the ESV in his preaching, and our S/S curriculum. I'm not really familiar with the ESV (I prefer the NKJV, actually) so would appreciate the board members opinions on it. Whether good, bad, or indifferent.Thanks!

I just read through this thread and you guys are way beyond me on specific issues with certain versions but the OP was about opinions on the ESV. I've used the ESV for 12 years. Was raised on the KJV. The ESV is associated with Calvinistic churches but that's probably due to marketing more than anything else. It isn't bad but reads kind of choppy. I found that when I tried to memorize in the ESV I found myself going back to KJV halfway through (not threw) a verse if I was already familiar with it. But I've worked with new Christians enough to observe that if they weren't raised on the KJV it is very difficult for them to start with it as an adult. I take to church whatever version the pastor is using and I think the ESV is fine.

I do actually prefer the KJV. But for a modern version just to read devotionally the NIV is easier to read. My wife likes the NIV and would always poke me in the ribs whenever the pastor would read a passage out of the KJV and then say "well what this means is" and sure enough his explanation was what the NIV said. One thing being raised on the KJV helped me with was that it was far easier for me when I started reading Puritans because I was familiar with that style. (I realize on this site that may not be considered a good thing.)
 

Conan

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This is what you wrote in # 127, "SBG just through away his freedom for onlyism". the correct English is, "SBG just THREW away his freedom for onlyism". Just admit that you are wrong!
Yes. But what I meant was, and should have said, moved through freedom to thralldom.
 

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Randolf

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The ESV has been considered one of the most accurate translations in English. I use it all the time and I've used all sorts of translations and I find it very readable and also matching the rest.
 

RipponRedeaux

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The ESV has been considered one of the most accurate translations in English. I use it all the time and I've used all sorts of translations and I find it very readable and also matching the rest.
The press releases of Crossway makes some rather bold and inconsistent claims as does the preface of the ESV.
 
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