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Cathode

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The entire point of Scripture is to lead people to receive Jesus Himself in person in The a Eucharist, this is how Scripture saves a man. That he believes what Jesus says in the scripture and does as Jesus commands.

“You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you might live”

The Eucharist is Jesus Himself, who comes down daily from Heaven as The Bread of Life to sustain us through life.

Jesus commanded we eat His flesh and drink His blood, and many refuse Him, they detest His table. Believing neither the scripture or the Lords own words.

Jesus is alone pure Life.

“ Unless you eat the flesh of the son of man, and drink His blood, you have no life in you. “
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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The Gospel is preached daily in Church, in any local Catholic Church near you.

You will hear the whole bible read and explained over 3 years, if you attend daily Mass. That’s just in normal worship.

This is a 2000 year old tradition in the Catholic Church, practiced long before Protestants or Baptist’s walked the earth.
Thee years huh… do you consider that a hunger for the Word. And why does the RCC have to read it to you? Why not pick up the Bible and read it yourself?

Personally I believe that the RC hierarchical system to be corrupt on multiple levels. They are very responsible for ushering in many illegals across US borders, thus overwhelming varied systems (housing, urban development, education, food deployment, healthcare etc) and there is little regard on the RCC as to the lawless of it all… it’s assumed that the American citizens will pick up the bill.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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The entire point of Scripture is to lead people to receive Jesus Himself in person in The a Eucharist, this is how Scripture saves a man. That he believes what Jesus says in the scripture and does as Jesus commands.

“You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you might live”

The Eucharist is Jesus Himself, who comes down daily from Heaven as The Bread of Life to sustain us through life.

Jesus commanded we eat His flesh and drink His blood, and many refuse Him, they detest His table. Believing neither the scripture or the Lords own words.

Jesus is alone pure Life.

“ Unless you eat the flesh of the son of man, and drink His blood, you have no life in you. “
People are led to Christ first by the Holy Spirit and by Grace, not via a sacramental works based system. If you were regenerated by the Holy Spirit then you’d understand and you would be converted. As such, the people who compromise the RCC are mostly not born agains… rather you are a corrupted influence to the Kingdom and the children of God who populate the world.
 

Cathode

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You are referring to Jews, not Catholics!

I am referring to people off the street, healed of end stage cancer, healed of chronic addictions, preventing abortions, and bringing love, hope and peace.

I dare to ask these things in Faith because Jesus is with me and granted what I asked of The Father.

Believe the works done in His Name.

Do you consider yourself regenerated? If so, then why are you Catholic?

It is because of the Catholic Church that any of us are regenerated, without it we would neither know Christ or the Scriptures.
 

Salty

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The Gospel is preached daily in Church, in any local Catholic Church near you.

You will hear the whole bible read and explained over 3 years, if you attend daily Mass. That’s just in normal worship.

This is a 2000 year old tradition in the Catholic Church, practiced long before Protestants or Baptist’s walked the earth.

Dont you mean about 1700 years?

So as not to hijack - a new thread has been started
When was the RCC founded?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Some have - but I would guessmate if it a low %
Yea, I was at 35 yo. Many are as well… they are Regenerated then converted. You can’t go back to a corrupt religious system that believes works (sacraments) saves you once you know the truth… then you belong to Him totally… you are then a child of God.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I am referring to people off the street, healed of end stage cancer, healed of chronic addictions, preventing abortions, and bringing love, hope and peace.

I dare to ask these things in Faith because Jesus is with me and granted what I asked of The Father.

Believe the works done in His Name.



It is because of the Catholic Church that any of us are regenerated, without it we would neither know Christ or the Scriptures.
That last statement is pure heretical thinking… the Holy Spirit doesn’t need the RCC to do the work of God. Guess you don’t believe in the Trinity either.
 

Cathode

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Thee years huh… do you consider that a hunger for the Word.

No, that’s called savouring the word. We hear the word in small amounts each morning and meditate on it happily throughout the day. The entire Catholic Church around the world is meditating on those same scriptures in daily church attendance.

And why does the RCC have to read it to you? Why not pick up the Bible and read it yourself?

Why does your preacher read it to you, why can’t you read it yourself? The fact is we all read scripture and in turn have it read to us at times.

Personally I believe that the RC hierarchical system to be corrupt on multiple levels. They are very responsible for ushering in many illegals across US borders, thus overwhelming varied systems (housing, urban development, education, food deployment, healthcare etc) and there is little regard on the RCC as to the lawless of it all… it’s assumed that the American citizens will pick up the bill.

Someone has to help the poor people your lawless government is letting in.
 

Cathode

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That last statement is pure heretical thinking… the Holy Spirit doesn’t need the RCC to do the work of God. Guess you don’t believe in the Trinity either.

It’s a fait ā complit. The Holy Spirit did act through The Catholic Church to determine and canonise the bible and give it the world. Even Luther admitted that.
The Bible came to us by the Catholic Church guided by The Holy Spirit, it did not come from Protestants or Baptist’s.
That’s why I trust only the Catholic Church to explain it, it’s the Catholic Churches Book.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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No, that’s called savouring the word. We hear the word in small amounts each morning and meditate on it happily throughout the day. The entire Catholic Church around the world is meditating on those same scriptures in daily church attendance.



Why does your preacher read it to you, why can’t you read it yourself? The fact is we all read scripture and in turn have it read to us at times.



Someone has to help the poor people your lawless government is letting in.
This present government is indeed lawless but the voters will soon rectify the situation, God in fact is my true government… however the RCC is in bed with the present temporal government to overwhelm the country. And these people are not coming here as political refugees, rather to reap the benefits of all the freebies the USA provides.
A kid who just moved into the neighborhood has 3 episodes of going nuts from drugs supplied by the illegal cartels.. it ‘‘twas quite the experience to see him loose it, screaming at the top of his lungs, blah blah blah.

Perhaps Trump, as much as I don’t like the guy, could provide some order to this out of control zoo we are currently living in. Ole Brandon’s a big problem currently.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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It’s a fait ā complit. The Holy Spirit did act through The Catholic Church to determine and canonise the bible and give it the world. Even Luther admitted that.
The Bible came to us by the Catholic Church guided by The Holy Spirit, it did not come from Protestants or Baptist’s.
That’s why I trust only the Catholic Church to explain it, it’s the Catholic Churches Book.
Keep telling yourself that… but I won’t be there to corroborate your story. The RCC is corrupt plain and simple, of that I’m convinced. So pettle your papers somewhere else
 

Cathode

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Keep telling yourself that… but I won’t be there to corroborate your story. The RCC is corrupt plain and simple, of that I’m convinced. So pettle your papers somewhere else

I’m telling you the truth bro, the Bible didn’t come from Protestantism or Baptist’s. They had nothing to do with preserving the scriptures, determining or canonising the Bible, they didn’t exist back then. It was all done by the Catholic Church, long before those human founded traditions existed.
Catholics are pre Bible Christianity, they were the ones that determined the Canon of Scripture, that’s what the Catholic Church does, it Canonises things.
 

Cathode

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This present government is indeed lawless but the voters will soon rectify the situation, God in fact is my true government… however the RCC is in bed with the present temporal government to overwhelm the country. And these people are not coming here as political refugees, rather to reap the benefits of all the freebies the USA provides.
A kid who just moved into the neighborhood has 3 episodes of going nuts from drugs supplied by the illegal cartels.. it ‘‘twas quite the experience to see him loose it, screaming at the top of his lungs, blah blah blah.

Perhaps Trump, as much as I don’t like the guy, could provide some order to this out of control zoo we are currently living in. Ole Brandon’s a big problem currently.

I am praying for your country, it has been a great beacon of freedom for the world, and Americans have been very generous, and not just because of self interest. It has prevented a great deal of pain the world would have otherwise suffered.

My feeling is Trump will be destroyed or assassinated before he becomes president, unless people pray for his protection, he is the only candidate talking about the real issues in your country.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I am praying for your country, it has been a great beacon of freedom for the world, and Americans have been very generous, and not just because of self interest. It has prevented a great deal of pain the world would have otherwise suffered.

My feeling is Trump will be destroyed or assassinated before he becomes president, unless people pray for his protection, he is the only candidate talking about the real issues in your country.
Well thanks…Trump is ahead if they don’t throw him in prison first. Personally I like Kennedy but he is getting shut down by his own party if you can believe that… we shall see where God leads us.
 

David Kent

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The Eucharist is Jesus Himself. It’s the source of all grace for the whole world, Catholic and Protestant.
“ The bread that I shall give is my flesh, for the life of the world “

Jesus made it possible in the Eucharist.

“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood, has eternal life, and will raise him up on the last day “

Only Jesus Himself is the Bread of Life, the true mana come down from Heaven.

“ So he who eats me, will live because of me “

We are sustained daily by The Eucharist as Israel was sustained daily by mana in the desert.

“Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. This is the bread which cometh down out of heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.”



Your view of history is way off mate.

The so called eucharist is not the Lord's Supper, that was bread that was broken, not a round wafer fashened to represent the sun which is your true god. That is why your "churches" are filled with sun images.

When I have been in RC cathedrals, twice to my memory, I see many people bowing down to idols and worshipping them.

EXODUS 20-1-5 And God spoke all these words, saying: “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. “You shall have no other gods before Me. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God,

Leviticus 26:1-2 ‘You shall not make idols for yourselves; neither a carved image nor a sacred pillar shall you rear up for yourselves; nor shall you set up an engraved stone in your land, to bow down to it; for I am the LORD your God. You shall keep My Sabbaths and reverence My sanctuary: I am the LORD.

Deuteronomy 5:6-9 I am the LORD your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God,

In which way was was my view of history flawed?

"The Pope and the clergy are hand in hand with the regime. Moreover, there is never an important Fascist ceremony at which the clergy are not in the place of honour."
L'Illustration, 24 September 1932

"Nazism is a Christian reaction against the spirit of 1789." FRANZVONPAPEN,
Privy Chamberlain to the Pope

"Hitler is an envoy of God."1
MGR. STEPINAC.
The Croation Sentinel 1 Jan 1942

"The Third Reich is the first power in the world, not only to recognize, but also to put into practice, the high principles of the Papacy."
FRANZ VON PAPEN, Privy Chamberlain to the Pope.

"John XXIII sends his best wishes to Cardinal Stepinac."
La Croix, 25 June 1959

"Indeed, ours is a strangely delicate century. Does it believe that the ashes of the stake are completely cold? That there is no small spark left to light a solitary torch? The foolish ones—by calling us Jesuits they think they cover us with infamy! But these Jesuits are reserving for them censure, a gag and fire. And one day they will master their masters."
ROOTHAAN, one time General of the Jesuit

"The Jesuits have never conceived of European politics as anything but a war of religion."1 PIERRE DOMINIQUE.
 

Cathode

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The so called eucharist is not the Lord's Supper, that was bread that was broken, not a round wafer fashened to represent the sun which is your true god. That is why your "churches" are filled with sun images.

When I have been in RC cathedrals, twice to my memory, I see many people bowing down to idols and worshipping them.

EXODUS 20-1-5 And God spoke all these words, saying: “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. “You shall have no other gods before Me. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God,

Leviticus 26:1-2 ‘You shall not make idols for yourselves; neither a carved image nor a sacred pillar shall you rear up for yourselves; nor shall you set up an engraved stone in your land, to bow down to it; for I am the LORD your God. You shall keep My Sabbaths and reverence My sanctuary: I am the LORD.

Deuteronomy 5:6-9 I am the LORD your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God,

In which way was was my view of history flawed?

"The Pope and the clergy are hand in hand with the regime. Moreover, there is never an important Fascist ceremony at which the clergy are not in the place of honour."
L'Illustration, 24 September 1932

"Nazism is a Christian reaction against the spirit of 1789." FRANZVONPAPEN,
Privy Chamberlain to the Pope

"Hitler is an envoy of God."1
MGR. STEPINAC.
The Croation Sentinel 1 Jan 1942

"The Third Reich is the first power in the world, not only to recognize, but also to put into practice, the high principles of the Papacy."
FRANZ VON PAPEN, Privy Chamberlain to the Pope.

"John XXIII sends his best wishes to Cardinal Stepinac."
La Croix, 25 June 1959

"Indeed, ours is a strangely delicate century. Does it believe that the ashes of the stake are completely cold? That there is no small spark left to light a solitary torch? The foolish ones—by calling us Jesuits they think they cover us with infamy! But these Jesuits are reserving for them censure, a gag and fire. And one day they will master their masters."
ROOTHAAN, one time General of the Jesuit

"The Jesuits have never conceived of European politics as anything but a war of religion."1 PIERRE DOMINIQUE.

No, you will find traditional Passover bread that Jesus used to institute The Eucharist was round unleavened bread. Nothing to do with sun images.

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Traditional handmade Passover matzah was round. Only recently was the shape changed to square for mass machine manufacture.

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The Eucharist is Jesus Himself The Bread of Life, come down from Heaven each day to sustain us.
He who eats this bread will live forever.
 

David Kent

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For Catholics worship is a particular thing, and don’t consider what happens at Protestant services as worship.
Not that those services aren’t good and beneficial, there’s prayer, hymns and reading from and explaining scripture, but it isn’t worship.

Actual worship has always been in relation to the Altar and Sacrifice, and receiving Jesus Himself in Covenant Communion.
The complete self giving of one to the other.

The RC Sacrifice is a blasphemy there is no sacrifice, the priest does not change anything, and when the papists bow down to the host, the are worshiping a wafer.

Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Not repeatedly, but once for all.
 
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Cathode

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The RC Sacrifice is a blasphemy there is no sacrifice, the priest does not change anything, and when the papists bow down to the host, the are worshiping a wafer.

Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Not repeatedly, but once for all.

Once for All, all believers can receive Jesus body and blood down the ages in the One Holy Eucharist that Jesus instituted. The new daily mana from Heaven, The Bread of Life, Jesus Himself.

You eat bread and drink wine, these do not give life. Jesus flesh and blood alone gives life.

“ My Flesh is real food and my blood is real drink “

“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.”

“ He who eats me, will live because of me “

All scripture is the invite to this One Feast, many are invited and many refuse His command to eat His flesh and drink His blood. They do not believe, thus do not eat.

“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood, has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. “
 

37818

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Once for All, all believers can receive Jesus body and blood down the ages in the One Holy Eucharist that Jesus instituted. The new daily mana from Heaven, The Bread of Life, Jesus Himself.

You eat bread and drink wine, these do not give life. Jesus flesh and blood alone gives life.

“ My Flesh is real food and my blood is real drink “

“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.”

“ He who eats me, will live because of me “

All scripture is the invite to this One Feast, many are invited and many refuse His command to eat His flesh and drink His blood. They do not believe, thus do not eat.

“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood, has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. “
Jesus taught metaphor regarging His literal teaching in John 6:47-48, ". . . Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on Me hath everlasting life. I am that bread of life. . . ." Per John 6:63, ". . . It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. . . ."
 
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