EV's in deep freeze

[canadyjd]

One unsupported false claim after another seems all you have to offer.
LFP batteries contain no cobalt.

Tesla, which makes more than half of the electric vehicles sold in the U.S., reports five car fires per billion miles driven, compared with 55 fires per billion miles driven in gas-powered cars. ​

Thus there is no need for anyone to image "...gas tanks exploding or burning far more often than batteries?"

More EV deniers spreading false information.

That doesn’t say gas tanks are spontaneously exploding like EV batteries do.

EV denier

peace to you

 

[Van]

More EV deniers spreading false information.

That doesn’t say gas tanks are spontaneously exploding like EV batteries do.

EV denier

peace to you

Is there a quote for the claim "spontaneously exploding?" No of course not, as this claim was concocted by the EV denier.

 

[canadyjd]

Is there a quote for the claim "spontaneously exploding?" No of course not, as this claim was concocted by the EV denier.

Apparently you are ignoring the reports of EV batteries spontaneously exploding. Probably willful ignorance. Ford recalled their whole line of EV trucks over it.

And even if they didn’t spontaneously explode, which they do in a regular basis, the documented fact they are built using child slave labor in Africa and China should appall anyone thinking of buying one.

Even if a person doesn’t care about the child slave labor (hard to imagine though it’s obviously true from some folks posts), the documented facts concerning the hazardous heavy metals and toxins that spew into the air, ground and water when these batteries explode like every battery ever made explodes, would cause those concerned with the environment to be appalled.

And yet… some continue to spew EV propaganda while denying child labor and environmental hazards.

peace to you

 

[Van]

Apparently you are ignoring the reports of EV batteries spontaneously exploding. Probably willful ignorance. Ford recalled their whole line of EV trucks over it.

And even if they didn’t spontaneously explode, which they do in a regular basis, the documented fact they are built using child slave labor in Africa and China should appall anyone thinking of buying one.

Even if a person doesn’t care about the child slave labor (hard to imagine though it’s obviously true from some folks posts), the documented facts concerning the hazardous heavy metals and toxins that spew into the air, ground and water when these batteries explode like every battery ever made explodes, would cause those concerned with the environment to be appalled.

And yet… some continue to spew EV propaganda while denying child labor and environmental hazards.

peace to you

Those were your words which you seem to have attributed to me.
Per miles driven, fossil fueled cars experience about 10 times more fires than EV's.
You do not seem able to grasp LFP batteries are not produced with child labor.
You do not seem able to grasp LFP batterers contain no "hazardous heavy metals or toxins."

 

[canadyjd]

Those were your words which you seem to have attributed to me.
Per miles driven, fossil fueled cars experience about 10 times more fires than EV's.
You do not seem able to grasp LFP batteries are not produced with child labor.
You do not seem able to grasp LFP batterers contain no "hazardous heavy metals or toxins."

Again, well documented child slave labor to produce EV batteries. Some will say the EV batteries they like are not produced with child slave labor so that makes it alright.

EV propaganda through and through. The same folks pushing EV batteries are pushing global climate change, eating insects, slaughtering cattle because they fluctuate to much gas into the air, censorship of any idea, speech or group that disagree with their pseudo science. etc…

… short, they are radical liberal leftists that want to destroy America.

Don’t believe the propaganda

peace to you

 

[Van]

Again, well documented child slave labor to produce EV batteries. Some will say the EV batteries they like are not produced with child slave labor so that makes it alright.

EV propaganda through and through. The same folks pushing EV batteries are pushing global climate change, eating insects, slaughtering cattle because they fluctuate to much gas into the air, censorship of any idea, speech or group that disagree with their pseudo science. etc…

… short, they are radical liberal leftists that want to destroy America.

Don’t believe the propaganda

peace to you

Note the fact LFP batteries are not produced by child slave labor is ignored.
Yes, many Democrat thugs are pushing mandates for utilization of EV's. That the godless left misuses truth to accomplish evil is not secret.
Yes, do not believe those that use propaganda to discredit the potential for BEV's.
But let us address the actual problems?
1) Our Electrical power system lacks a diverse generation mix, and is overly reliant on fossil fuel. The fix is to address the problem with more roof top solar power and safely sited and designed nuclear power stations.

2) Many EV have too small a battery. Yes, unless the cost of say 90 KWh batteries are brought to a price competitive level, EV will remain a rich man's toy.

3) Cold weather performance problems can be addressed with adequate design enhancements.

 

[canadyjd]

….
But let us address the actual problems?
1) Our Electrical power system lacks a diverse generation mix, and is overly reliant on fossil fuel. The fix is to address the problem with more roof top solar power and safely sited and designed nuclear power stations.

2) Many EV have too small a battery. Yes, unless the cost of say 90 KWh batteries are brought to a price competitive level, EV will remain a rich man's toy.

3) Cold weather performance problems can be addressed with adequate design enhancements.

1. Fossil fuel use has brought about the greatest explosion of human innovation in the history of the planet. There is no replacement in sight, nor should there be. Fossil fuels can continue this level of production for another 1000 years with ease.

2. EV are heavily subsidized with taxpayer money.

3. If the engineering geniuses didn’t consider cold weather problems, why does anyone think it can be fixed with a design upgrade?

EV’s…
1. Produced by child slave labor
2. Harmful to the environment
3. Not needed because global climate change is a Marxist hoax designed to destroy western democracies.

peace to you

 

[Van]

1. Fossil fuel use has brought about the greatest explosion of human innovation in the history of the planet. There is no replacement in sight, nor should there be. Fossil fuels can continue this level of production for another 1000 years with ease.

2. EV are heavily subsidized with taxpayer money.

3. If the engineering geniuses didn’t consider cold weather problems, why does anyone think it can be fixed with a design upgrade?

EV’s…
1. Produced by child slave labor
2. Harmful to the environment
3. Not needed because global climate change is a Marxist hoax designed to destroy western democracies.

peace to you

1) Our Electrical power system lacks a diverse generation mix, and is overly reliant on fossil fuel. The fix is to address the problem with more roof top solar power and safely sited and designed nuclear power stations.

2) EV's should be made and sold based on market forces.

3) EV's and their charging system design will be improved as problems surface during early adoption.

1a) EV's powered by LFP batteries are not produced by child labor.

2a) EV's powered by LFP batteries are less harmful to the environment than fossil fueled vehicles.

3a) Man-made global climate change is a Marxist hoax, but the false claims made about EV's are also a hoax.

 

[canadyjd]

Goodnight

peace to you

 

[Van]

Do we have to image a Tesla equipped with a LFP battery? Nope
Do we have to image the materials for those LFP batteries have rare earth metals mined by children? Nope
Do we have to image gas tanks exploding or burning far more often than batteries? Nope
Do we have to image exhaust air pollution contributing to life shortening and life ending disease? Nope