Exhaustive Foreknowledge

[JesusFan]

On and on, one false claim after another. Infinite Omniscience is the false doctrine of those who have not studied what scripture teaches. Inherit Omniscience is the biblical doctrine consistent with all scripture.

God said, "Now I know" indicating He did not know beforehand. The false doctrine folks say this verse does not mean what it says.
Scripture says Jesus knew all, yet did not know when He would return. Thus to be "all knowing" is to be "all knowing" about whatever is contextually in view, not everything imaginable, the unstudied view of false teachers.

If God really needs to know something as being now brand new to Him, is no longer qualified to be God

 

[Van]

If God really needs to know something as being now brand new to Him, is no longer qualified to be God

You can invent your God till the cows come home, scripture cannot be broken using mad-made doctrines that make God's word to no affect.

 

[37818]

Infinite Omniscience is the false doctrine of those who have not studied what scripture teaches.

Isaiah 46:10, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: . . .

 

[Van]

Isaiah 46:10, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: . . .

Yes, what God has declared about the end (Revelation) and that which is not yet done will happen. But God has not declared everything, such as the specific time of His return. So the verse supports "Inherit Omniscience" and conflicts with the false doctrine of "Infinite Omniscience."

God said, "Now I know" indicating He did not know beforehand. The false doctrine folks say this verse does not mean what it says.
Scripture says Jesus knew all, yet did not know when He would return. Thus to be "all knowing" is to be "all knowing" about whatever is contextually in view, not everything imaginable, the unstudied view of false teachers.

Genesis 22:12 NASB
He said, “Do not reach out your hand against the boy, and do not do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.”

Those blinded by man-made doctrine deny God can choose not to know everything, and learn of attributes from behavior. Scripture of course teaches otherwise.

 

[37818]

Yes, what God has declared about the end (Revelation) and that which is not yet done will happen. But God has not declared everything, such as the specific time of His return. So the verse supports "Inherit Omniscience" and conflicts with the false doctrine of "Infinite Omniscience."

God said, "Now I know" indicating He did not know beforehand. The false doctrine folks say this verse does not mean what it says.
Scripture says Jesus knew all, yet did not know when He would return. Thus to be "all knowing" is to be "all knowing" about whatever is contextually in view, not everything imaginable, the unstudied view of false teachers.

Genesis 22:12 NASB
He said, “Do not reach out your hand against the boy, and do not do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.”

Those blinded by man-made doctrine deny God can choose not to know everything, and learn of attributes from behavior. Scripture of course teaches otherwise.

The Son of God fully represents His Father, being the same one God. But He is not His Father.

Mark 13:32, But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Acts of the Apostles 1:7, And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

 

[JesusFan]

You can invent your God till the cows come home, scripture cannot be broken using mad-made doctrines that make God's word to no affect.

Your God is the one of Open Theism, not of the bible

 

[JesusFan]

Yes, what God has declared about the end (Revelation) and that which is not yet done will happen. But God has not declared everything, such as the specific time of His return. So the verse supports "Inherit Omniscience" and conflicts with the false doctrine of "Infinite Omniscience."

God said, "Now I know" indicating He did not know beforehand. The false doctrine folks say this verse does not mean what it says.
Scripture says Jesus knew all, yet did not know when He would return. Thus to be "all knowing" is to be "all knowing" about whatever is contextually in view, not everything imaginable, the unstudied view of false teachers.

Genesis 22:12 NASB
He said, “Do not reach out your hand against the boy, and do not do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.”

Those blinded by man-made doctrine deny God can choose not to know everything, and learn of attributes from behavior. Scripture of course teaches otherwise.

Jesus spoke as one who accepted while upon the Earth in the Incarnation the limitations of becoming human flesh, but now ascended has received back full glory and fully well know time of second coming, while both Father and Holy Spirit never had a time of "not knowing all things"

 

[JesusFan]

Isaiah 46:10, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: . . .

Also the hidden and secret things that only the lord knows

 

[Van]

Your God is the one of Open Theism, not of the bible

Your man-made doctrine is not "of the bible."

All these poster's do is make unsupported claims and disparage opponents.

Infinite Omniscience is the false doctrine of those who have not studied what scripture teaches. Inherit Omniscience is the biblical doctrine consistent with all scripture.

God said, "Now I know" indicating He did not know beforehand. The false doctrine folks say this verse does not mean what it says.
Scripture says Jesus knew all, yet did not know when He would return. Thus to be "all knowing" is to be "all knowing" about whatever is contextually in view, not everything imaginable, the unstudied view of false teachers.

Calvinism declares the Open Theism fundamental - God is not the author of sin. Yet, this poster seems too obstinate to accept reality, unless he has no grasp of Open Theism.

 

[37818]

Genesis 22:12, And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.

All appearances of the LORD God is the Son of God.

John 1:18, No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

 

[Van]

Jesus spoke as one who accepted while upon the Earth in the Incarnation the limitations of becoming human flesh, but now ascended has received back full glory and fully well know time of second coming, while both Father and Holy Spirit never had a time of "not knowing all things"

Here we have the "all knowing Jesus, said not to be all knowing. How many scriptures does he need to nullify to support his false doctrine. And do not skip God saying before the incarnation, 'now I know" indicating God did not know beforehand. Folks, verse after verse teach Inherit Omniscience, but the obstinate continue to claim scripture does not mean what it says.

 

[37818]

@Van and @JesusFan
Regarding the concept of the infinite omniscience of God, it seems, we hold three differing views.

 

[Van]

@Van and @JesusFan
Regarding the concept of the infinite omniscience of God, it seems, we hold three differing views.

No, only two, one (Inherit Omniscience) is true and the alternates are false.

 

[37818]

No, only two, one (Inherit Omniscience) is true and the alternates are false.

So what is contrary to what truth(s), and why?

 

[Van]

So what is contrary to what truth(s), and why?

I have no idea what you are asking for that has not already been presented. Jesus is said to "know all" in John 21:17. Yet He did not know the time of His return. Thus to "know all" does not mean to know everything imaginable, infinite omniscience, but simply refers to Jesus knowing all about whatever is contextually in view, which is that Jesus knew all about the people He encountered, such as Peter and the other disciples.

 

[JesusFan]

Here we have the "all knowing Jesus, said not to be all knowing. How many scriptures does he need to nullify to support his false doctrine. And do not skip God saying before the incarnation, 'now I know" indicating God did not know beforehand. Folks, verse after verse teach Inherit Omniscience, but the obstinate continue to claim scripture does not mean what it says.

Jesus accepted the Limitations of Human flesh, so as the Second person of the Gohead being a man could choose to rely upon knowing as a man would, but still always knew it as also being God

 

[JesusFan]

No, only two, one (Inherit Omniscience) is true and the alternates are false.

So what does God need to know about Van, are you like Job foolish enough to try to lecture God and "clue Him in on things" He is not aware of us yet?

 

[JesusFan]

I have no idea what you are asking for that has not already been presented. Jesus is said to "know all" in John 21:17. Yet He did not know the time of His return. Thus to "know all" does not mean to know everything imaginable, infinite omniscience, but simply refers to Jesus knowing all about whatever is contextually in view, which is that Jesus knew all about the people He encountered, such as Peter and the other disciples.

Was Jesus still fully God on earth then van?

 

[Van]

Not the endless attacks on manufactured issues, while avoiding the topic.

God said "now I know" indicating He had chosen not to know beforehand.

Scripture says Jesus knows all yet did not know the time of His return, so the all refers to all of whatever is contextually in view, not everything imaginable.

 

[JesusFan]

Not the endless attacks on manufactured issues, while avoiding the topic.

God said "now I know" indicating He had chosen not to know beforehand.

Scripture says Jesus knows all yet did not know the time of His return, so the all refers to all of whatever is contextually in view, not everything imaginable.

So was Jesus no longer God when he stated did not know?