Faith

[agedman]

Not all will hear the Gospel because they have more pleasure in their sinful ways

So, again, how is hearing brought?

 

[SavedByGrace]

So, again, how is hearing brought?

By preaching as Paul says in Romans chapter 10

 

[agedman]

By preaching as Paul says in Romans chapter 10

No, that isn’t what Romans 10 states.

 

[SavedByGrace]

No, that isn’t what Romans 10 states.

How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!”
Romans 10:14-15

 

[agedman]

How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!”
Romans 10:14-15

I agree with that passage completely.

The Scriptures in Romans 10 not only specifies how faith comes as you properly stated

faith comes from hearing

, but also how hearing comes.

“Faith comes by hearing and….” So both faith and hearing are ….

 

[SavedByGrace]

but also how hearing comes

is this not in your Bible? "So faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God"

 

[agedman]

is this not in your Bible? "So faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God"

Ok, now the obvious question the thread ask is about faith.

You hav gotten the point that both faith and hearing is by the Word of God.

Who is the Word of God?

 

[SavedByGrace]

Ok, now the obvious question the thread ask is about faith.

You hav gotten the point that both faith and hearing is by the Word of God.

Who is the Word of God?

The Holy Bible

 

[SavedByGrace]

Ok, now the obvious question the thread ask is about faith.

You hav gotten the point that both faith and hearing is by the Word of God.

Who is the Word of God?

The Greek word for "word" here is not "logos", but "rehema"

 

[agedman]

The Greek word for "word" here is not "logos", but "rehema"

Exactly right, so then what is the word “God?”

What is the word of …?

 

[agedman]

Ultimately @SavedByGrace must come to the agreement with Romans 10 in which the Scriptures present that both the faith and the hearing are granted by the word of God (Theos in some manuscripts and Christos in others).

(From the OP)

“This thread is dedicated to any who would desire to present their own thinking concerning origin of faith, and to show it consistent with the presentation found in all Scripture.”​

I am not going to expect less then a solid presentation of Scripture concerning the origin of faith and be able to the presentation consistent with that of Scripture.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Exactly right, so then what is the word “God?”

What is the word of …?

Again it is the Holy Bible!

Can't you understand that?

 

[agedman]

Again it is the Holy Bible!

Can't you understand that?

So what does the Bible say of itself?

The word of God/Christ is not mere words on a page delivered orally, but energetically living, sharper then any two edged sword able to separate bone from that which is alive (marrow) able to separate dead soul (flesh) from spirit and discerns the thoughts and the intentions of the heart. (My paraphrased version)

How does Hebrews 4 blend with Romans 10?

 

[Aaron]

Faith is either an innate human attribute which is capable of initiating redemption or it is a God given attribute used by God to repurpose a vessel to be useful to Him.

Personally, I consider the teaching that Christ is the author of all that pertains to redemption and that includes the faith. For this is the statement of Paul.

Some do not.

Personally, I consider the Father giving to the Son all those who He is to redeem, for this is the statement of John 6.

Some do not.

Would you abide in a human contrived faith or that faith given by the Redeemer to the sin filled one who will be drawn and sealed as redeemed?

This thread is dedicated to any who would desire to present their own thinking concerning origin of faith, and to show it consistent with the presentation found in all Scripture.

There is no condition or ability of the natural man that is able to receive the things of God. 1 Corinthians 2:14.

 

[AustinC]

By preaching as Paul says in Romans chapter 10

Nope, that's not what Paul says. Read it again and then try again.