Far-right terrorism comes to New Zealand

[Matt Black]

At least 49 people are killed and 48 injured in multiple Christchurch mosque massacres involving an Australian terrorist, 28, who live-streamed himself opening fire on worshippers - as a man in his 20s is charged with murder

Looks pretty organised. Prayers for the victims' families and community. Very sad

 

[Adonia]

Sad this has happened. Innocent people should be left to practice their faith in peace. I just hope that the media does not go overboard in their coverage because they were Muslim worshippers, because when Christians get murdered in their churches by Muslim terrorists it seems the coverage is somewhat subdued.

 

[Matt Black]

Unless you have a strong disposition, don't click on the 'manifesto' in the link: The Manifesto of Brenton Tarrant - a right-wing terrorist on a Crusade - Observer+

Having read the 'manifesto' myself it is unclear whether Tarrant considers himself a Christian or not but he certainly considers himself as a defender of 'Christendom' , albeit in rather medieval terms, and someone who's prepared to become a mass-murderer to support his extreme bigotry. He'll have his days in court, doubtless. Unclear also whether there are other shooters involved or at large.

 

[777]

You read the whole thing? Didn't have the time, just skimmed through it, but is very weird, but I guess that's to be expected of somebody capable of doing this.

Claims to be a eco-fascist, whatever that it, former libertarian, former anarchist, former communist. Also had a big pagan vibe to the ravings, and why would some Australian be that obsession with the US's 2A? Very early, and he's alive so I may revise my opinion, but the killer comes off to me as a REAL NAZI with all the racism and nationalism he self-professes but then a real Nazi would ally with the Muslims, worry about HIS country and go after a synagogue.

Forget it, the guy is a total loon, some Charles Manson Aussie version. He wanted to start a global "race war" and then take over but Muslims aren't even a race but applying logic to this guy is going to fail. The world continues to crumble . . .

 

[church mouse guy]

Muhammad insisted that every part of his body was very white and that the devil was black and a black would destroy Mecca. Oh, I shouldn't have alluded to the Quran like that--social media will be banning all of us poor church mice now.

 

[church mouse guy]

David Wood says that he predicted these attacks because the ruling classes in Europe and North America have suppressed free speech that allows people to talk about their problems in a free society. When speech is repressed, violence and war result.

 

[HankD]

What difference what "race", religion or color he is!?

He is a murderer in need of Jesus Christ.

1 John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

 

[Salty]

What makes you think this was a far-right attack -
and If it was - what do you mean by Far right?

 

[Adonia]

This attack was put into motion by liberal leaders who forced a vastly different culture into what was a basically Christian country and at some point some nutso was going to react and he did. This has happened in other places, especially in Europe, where there are many "no go" areas where non-Muslims dare not enter.

Was the average citizen consulted to see if they wanted to go down such a road? No, of course not. This policy was forced on the people and has resulted in a "clash of cultures" and I fear that this will not be the last of this kind of attack.

 

[HankD]

He is a murderer plain and simple BUT those of the left handed progressive press who have been waiting for - OH SO LONG for a right wing loon serial murderer (Ya the lunatic that shot Scalise wasn't him either) - wrung their hands in anguish when they found out he is a COMMUNIST which they of course tried their VERY BEST to cover up/hide by running the news through the Ministry of Truth Media Machine and locking down his "Manifesto"

Killer’s manifesto reveals white supremacist who admires communist China – Boston Herald

But alas Tucker Carlson revealed his kill-every-one-not-a-commie mentality on his show tonight.

Watch it - its repeated during the night.

 

[Revmitchell]

Unless you have a strong disposition, don't click on the 'manifesto' in the link: The Manifesto of Brenton Tarrant - a right-wing terrorist on a Crusade - Observer+

Having read the 'manifesto' myself it is unclear whether Tarrant considers himself a Christian or not but he certainly considers himself as a defender of 'Christendom' , albeit in rather medieval terms, and someone who's prepared to become a mass-murderer to support his extreme bigotry. He'll have his days in court, doubtless. Unclear also whether there are other shooters involved or at large.

sigh.....he was a lefty ecoterrorist not far right

 

[Matt Black]

David Wood says that he predicted these attacks because the ruling classes in Europe and North America have suppressed free speech that allows people to talk about their problems in a free society. When speech is repressed, violence and war result.

No 'suppression'. Push back and challenging of views, yes. Go down the average British pub of an evening and you'll be assured of a vigorous debate on such issues if you start one - certainly not suppression!

 

[Matt Black]

What makes you think this was a far-right attack -
and If it was - what do you mean by Far right?

Racist. White supremacist. Anti-immigrant. Violence to achieve ends. Anti-democratic. 'Medieval Knight'. Supporter of Breivik. Etc

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

 

[Matt Black]

sigh.....he was a lefty ecoterrorist not far right

See my last comment

 

[church mouse guy]

No 'suppression'. Push back and challenging of views, yes. Go down the average British pub of an evening and you'll be assured of a vigorous debate on such issues if you start one - certainly not suppression!

Why are people in UK shamed and silenced for saying that little girls are raped in the UK by Muslim gangs? Why are you shamed and called names for opposing more immigration? I am talking about public debate not drunken arguments by drunks.

 

[Matt Black]

This attack was put into motion by liberal leaders who forced a vastly different culture into what was a basically Christian country and at some point some nutso was going to react and he did. This has happened in other places, especially in Europe, where there are many "no go" areas where non-Muslims dare not enter.

Was the average citizen consulted to see if they wanted to go down such a road? No, of course not. This policy was forced on the people and has resulted in a "clash of cultures" and I fear that this will not be the last of this kind of attack.

Sorry, but no and thrice no: you sound like you're paraphrasing part of his sick manifesto and this is the kind of dog whistle rhetoric ("destruction of Christian Europe blah blah blah, colonisation by alien cultures blah blah blah, swamped by a tide of immigrants yada yada yada") that encourages and spawns mass murderers like Tarrant (his manifesto admits as such, as does the support he has received on far right websites) or the murderer of Jo Cox in the UK in 2016. Remember that not just BB members read our posts and we need to take care and be responsible in what we say because we don't know who might be reading them....

 

[Matt Black]

Why are people in UK shamed and silenced for saying that little girls are raped in the UK by Muslim gangs? Why are you shamed and called names for opposing more immigration? I am talking about public debate not drunken arguments by drunks.

We're not. The Muslim prosecutor who got the Muslim child abusers and rapists jailed here has spoken out publicly on multiple occasions about the cultural clashes that helped give rise to these crimes. And the people I debate with down my local aren't drunks by the way.

 

[Matt Black]

Referendum campaign poster: Google Image Result for https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/AED0/production/_90025744_033583881-1.jpg

And pushback: Google Image Result for https://cached.imagescaler.hbpl.co.uk/resize/scaleWidth/743/cached.offlinehbpl.hbpl.co.uk/news/OMC/FFS-20190307091142876.jpg

 

[Matt Black]

Profile of Nazir Afzal, prosecutor of the Rochdale grooming gang: Nazir Afzal - Wikipedia

Oh, and if you don't believe we have a public discourse on such matters, watch 'Question Time' or listen to 'Any Questions' on the BBC if you can get them

 

[church mouse guy]

Profile of Nazir Afzal, prosecutor of the Rochdale grooming gang: Nazir Afzal - Wikipedia

Oh, and if you don't believe we have a public discourse on such matters, watch 'Question Time' or listen to 'Any Questions' on the BBC if you can get them

I thought that BBC controlled the debate for the government over there? At any rate, why was Lauren Southern stopped by the UK police from passing out the tract that Allah is gay? More importantly, why do liberals want to blame conservatives for the actions of a nut in New Zealand? I thought he said that he didn't care much for Trump. If he is a white supremacist, what has that got to do with conservatives? Why are Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller banned in the UK? Why is the murder rate so high in London?