Farrakhan on Obama the Messiah

[Enoch]

I just watched this...I had to see it for myself... wow...how does Farrakhan explain his meaning?

 

[Marcia]

I listened again and it does seem that Farrahkhan is referring to Obama as a Messiah. "When the Messiah speaks..." he says this right after talking about Obama. There could be no one else he is referring to here as Messiah.

Of course, I am not sure what the Farrakhan take on a Messiah is since they do not accept the idea of a Messiah, as far as I know. They are a spinoff of Islam (and considered a cult by Islam and not to be true Muslims).

So perhaps GoldDragon is right in that their idea of the Messiah is someone who will be a deliverer of a bad situation.

 

[Gold Dragon]

I just heard it. He isn't calling Obama the Messiah, he said when the messiah speaks

I just heard it and agree. Farrakan does not call Obama the Messiah in this video. The logo on his pulpit was "Saviour's Day". Wallace F. Muhammad is the messiah in the Nation of Islam. The following quote references him as "the Master".

Nation of Islam: A Brief History on the origin of The Nation of Islam in America A Nation of Peace & Beauty
...
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad identified the Master as being the answer to the one that the world had been expecting for the past 2,000 years under the names Messiah, the second coming of Jesus, the Christ, Jehovah, God, and the Son of Man.
...

This is a good example of how sound bites are easily misconstrued.

 

[carpro]

I was only suggesting that there is another way to look at this.. I am not an Obama supporter...

:laugh: OK.

Whatever.:laugh:

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I was only suggesting that there is another way to look at this.. I am not an Obama supporter...

Sadly Janie, anything said looking for balance, fair treatment, or another explanation makes you an Obama supporter.

 

[LeBuick]

Sadly Janie, anything said looking for balance, fair treatment, or another explanation makes you an Obama supporter.

Unfortunately Roger is right Janie, next they'll have you carrying a sign wearing pro-Obama teeshirt and hat...

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Whoops, thats Jamie - my bad

 

[donnA]

I believe you know what I was saying but since you want to open this door, we could start on Palin worship if you like.

I don't see anyone going to get an Obama haircut or a pair of Obama glasses. Do you really want to go down this road?

Just to warn you, this is an ugly road and the end has a bridge that goes nowhere.

So I guess of course you ahve proof someone is calling palin the messiah? If not, no comparission, since calling obama 'messiah' is the topic of this thread. So I guess you could start a new thread, if you have proof. But if not, lets stay on topic please, finally.

 

[donnA]

Where is the proof? All we have is an OP with a link that doesn't work.

not a hard time finding a link among the thousands on the net.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gl...ort-louis-farrakhan-declaration-obama-messiah

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

So I guess of course you ahve proof someone is calling palin the messiah? If not, no comparission, since calling obama 'messiah' is the topic of this thread. So I guess you could start a new thread, if you have proof. But if not, lets stay on topic please, finally.

Why is that when there is an anti-Palin thread it is on topic to bring Obama in, but in an anti-Obama thread is is off topic to bring Palin in?

 

[Chessic]

OP links work just fine for me, as do donnA's links.

 

[ajg1959]

Until I can get broadband hooked up, I am using dial-up and cant watch Youtube.

So, I have not seen the video, but I have to admit, that anytime Farrakan uses the term "Messiah" red flags go up.

We know that NOI doesnt believe that Jesus was the messiah, so could it be possible that Farrakan was referring to Mohammad?

My guess that any use of the word messiah by Farrakan was either referring to Obama or Mohammad. If he was referring to Jesus as the messiah, then I am sure he said it with sarcasm.

I am trying to remember exactly what he said once, but I believe it was something like "white people are devils". If he believes that, then perhaps he does see Obama as a savior.

AJ

 

[webdog]

Actually, the Word of God says:

Matt 24:24
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
(KJV)

But, I get what you are saying. I know I will not vote for Obama. I have changed my mind about this election. I don't particularly like McCain, but I cannot vote for Obama!

I'm quite impressed with your stance! :applause:
It takes a humble person to change their mind on important issues, and I believe you will be richly rewarded some day for taking such a stance. You have my respect :thumbs:

If only the vast majority of America could do the same... :tear:

 

[NiteShift]

For those who want more context, the longer version is HERE

Farrakhan says, among other things that, "Barack Obama is the herald of the messiah."

 

[Andy T.]

I know I will not vote for Obama. I have changed my mind about this election. I don't particularly like McCain, but I cannot vote for Obama!

Great news, Dragonfly! I agree with Webdog above. I am glad to hear it. And I agree with you about McCain - the horrid two-party system has given us two awful candidates. While I think faithful Christians can have disagreements about whether or not to vote for McCain, I do not think voting for Obama is a viable option for a believer.

 

[Andy T.]

Farrakhan says, among other things that, "Barack Obama is the herald of the messiah."

IOW, he is calling Obama some kind of prophet for the messiah. Kind of reminds me of the false prophet who heralds the Beast of Rev. 13.

 

[webdog]

IOW, he is calling Obama some kind of prophet for the messiah. Kind of reminds me of the false prophet who heralds the Beast of Rev. 13.

...and that is EXACTLY what I have thought of Obama from the beginning. I think 2012 could be the year Obama gets a "promotion" to the UN or EU. With the quick rise in popularity and power, the world would have no problem endorsing someone he puts full trust behind. I would not be surprised to see him become POTUS...the US economy taking off...and then being in the position to capitalize on this power surge.

I pray I'm wrong about him being POTUS, but it is looking like he might be separating himself from the pack. The vast majority of US voters are quite disappointing to me.

 

[KenH]

I do not think voting for Obama is a viable option for a believer.

Millions of your fellow believers, such as myself, will be doing exactly that - voting for Senator Obama. :thumbs:

 

[KenH]

it is looking like he might be separating himself from the pack.

Yes, it appears that my candidate will win the presidency for the third time in a row. :thumbs:

 

[webdog]

Millions of your fellow believers, such as myself, will be doing exactly that - voting for Senator Obama. :thumbs:

...and millions of voters will have to give an answer to God face to face for that...