Farrakhan on Obama the Messiah

[LeBuick]

What about minimum wage and worker's comp? These are not paid to the government as taxes, but they are government imposed mandates on every small business that hires employess. Every year that these go up, it makes it harder for a small business to keep the employees they already have, much less hire more so that they can grow.

Yes LeBuick, the Democrats are legislating small businesses out of business, whether its taxes or other government imposed financial mandates.

AJ

I haven't heard of them wanting to up minimum wage lately but here is the dilemma. How do we guarantee an adult with a family will get paid enough to provide for their family. I agree minimum wage isn't the best solution particularly because it gives higher pay to a high school student still living at home with mom and dad. However we're not making American's independent of government when an adult with a full time job still qualifies for social programs like food stamps, section 8 housing and AFDC.

I do agree minimum wage does pose a negative influence on small business but again, it is not a tax and Obama is not planning to raise it.

 

[carpro]

I haven't heard of them wanting to up minimum wage lately but here is the dilemma. How do we guarantee an adult with a family will get paid enough to provide for their family.

We don't.

All we have to guarantee is the opportunity to earn a market based wage. Government taxing and regulating small businesses out of existence takes away that opportuniity.

 

[LeBuick]

We don't.

All we have to guarantee is the opportunity to earn a market based wage. Government taxing and regulating small businesses out of existence takes away that opportuniity.

Well, like I said, if we allow workers to earn less that the poverty line then they will still be on government social programs. We can't have it both ways.

 

[carpro]

Well, like I said, if we allow workers to earn less that the poverty line then they will still be on government social programs. We can't have it both ways.

"Allow" ?

We should only be concerned with "allowing" workers the opportunity to earn a market based wage. They have to learn to live on what they earn.

That is the only "way" we need to have it.

Excessive Government regulation and taxation of businesses puts people on "government social programs". You can't have it "both ways".

 

[LeBuick]

"Allow" ?

We should only be concerned with "allowing" workers the opportunity to earn a market based wage. They have to learn to live on what they earn.

That is the only "way" we need to have it.

Excessive Government regulation and taxation of businesses puts people on "government social programs". You can't have it "both ways".

I can see your point but I disagree, either da boss man got to raise the pay or da rent man has to lower da rent or there is no way to "live on what they earn".

Is it fair that government has to step in? NO. I wished all men would do what's fair without having it forced on them. I wished everyone would get a fair days wage for a fair days work. But since we have an attitude of greed and only worry about self and investors then government stepped in. I am happy they did.

Taxation hasn't put anybody on Social programs. Working all day and earning less than the poverty level does. Incenting jobs through tax breaks to send American jobs overseas does. CEO's making 5x their salary as bonus while the company is going under does. Japanese steel freely flowing into our shores and no investment in clean coal technology does. The fact that a Christian can walk by his brother in need and not so much as look at him does.

Regulation maybe but you guys need to get a clear view on taxation.

 

[carpro]

Taxation hasn't put anybody on Social programs.

You're living in a fantasy world.

If a business closes or cuts back or moves out of the country because of excessive taxes or oppressive government regulations, someone is out of work.

They have lost their opportunity to earn a market based wage.

 

[LeBuick]

You're living in a fantasy world.

If a business closes or cuts back or moves out of the country because of excessive taxes or oppressive government regulations, someone is out of work.

They have lost their opportunity to earn a market based wage.

Show me one example of a company closing down exclusively because of taxes?

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

This thread has been off topic for a couple of pages. Might I suggest that one of you guys start a thread on the candidates and how their tax policies will affect small business?