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Favorite/most challenging book you have read?

evangelist6589

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That's the one. Would that everyone on the BB would read it.

I wish everyone on the BB would read The Way of the Master. I added this book to my wish list and I wish you would do the same with the Way of the Master. I am talking about the 300+ page book.
 

evangelist6589

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Challanging book. I have it heard it criticised as some sort of 'good living without the gospel' treatise, but I did find it helpful and thought provoking.

I really wouldn't know where to start so I will just give my most recent favourite - 'Holiness' by J.C. Ryle. It is available for only 99c in Kindle format.

OK, a couple more :)

Believe it or not, I really am blessed and challenged by 'Pilgrim's Progress.'

You may be surprised about this, but a wonderful book about how a believer should learn to live a contented life is an unabridged and unedited copy of 'Robinson Crusoe.' Crusoe's salvation is a blessed account as God takes the natural revelation of creation and then applies the special revelation of His word to see Crusoe saved. He then learns to stop pining for what he doesn't have and be grateful to God for what he does have. When Friday arrives Crusoe leads him to Christ and teaches him how to go back to his people with the gospel.

I do not have a Kindle (yet).
 

preacher4truth

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FYI you don't have to have 'a kindle' to get kindle books. It also works on PC's and tablets that are not ipads, i.e. on Android phones, tablets & phablets.

One great and challenging read to me was 'The Religious Affections' by Jonathan Edwards. I've also enjoyed 'The Way to True Happiness' by Robert Harris. I can't say there is only one which is above all else.
 
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evangelist6589

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For some reason I feel like they would promote lordship salvation..

You bet a donut they do!!! Its all over the pages. Brother Paul Washer and Mac do a great job. I know the books are tough reading (for the average Christian reader that is) but I challenge you to give them a shot. Okay if you can't handle the level of difficulty in those books then I suggest the following.

Hard to Believe by John MacArthur is a much easier read.
 

evangelist6589

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FYI you don't have to have 'a kindle' to get kindle books. It also works on PC's and tablets that are not ipads. It also works on Android phones, tablets and phablets.

One great and challenging read to me was 'The Religious Affections' by Jonathan Edwards. I've also enjoyed 'The Way to True Happiness' by Robert Harris. I can't say there is only one which is above all else.

I do not have a PC nor do I have a Android, sorry I am an Apple boy. Yes I have the Kindle app on my Mac but its a pain in the tail to read on it. A Kindle may be better when I can afford one that is. But the sad news is that I won't be able to buy books used anymore but will pay full price.
 

preacher4truth

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I do not have a PC nor do I have a Android, sorry I am an Apple boy. Yes I have the Kindle app on my Mac but its a pain in the tail to read on it. A Kindle may be better when I can afford one that is. But the sad news is that I won't be able to buy books used anymore but will pay full price.

I see. With Kindle on my phone it enables reading of kindle books.

I am wondering why you feel you won't be able to buy used books but instead believe you are forced to pay full price. I'm missing the connection and your point.
 

John of Japan

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I wish everyone on the BB would read The Way of the Master. I added this book to my wish list and I wish you would do the same with the Way of the Master. I am talking about the 300+ page book.
I have about 40 books on personal evangelism in my library already. From what I've heard and read about this one, it would not add to my understanding. I'll only buy it if I write another book on the subject.

For my part, I suggest John R. Rice's books: The Soul Winner's Fire or The Golden Path to Successful Personal Soul Winning or I Saw These Come to Christ or The Evangelist or Great Truths for Soul Winners.
 
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preacher4truth

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And you are exactly right! :thumbsup:

Both of you are exactly incorrect and show a profound misunderstanding of the Gospel. John MacArthur and Paul Washer are typically mislabeled, misrepresented and misunderstood by many of your ilk. But hey, keep studying and trying? Perhaps someday? :thumbsup:
 

John of Japan

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Both of you are exactly incorrect and show a profound misunderstanding of the Gospel. John MacArthur and Paul Washer are typically mislabeled, misrepresented and misunderstood by many of your ilk. But hey, keep studying and trying? Perhaps someday? :thumbsup:
I just take my Gospel from 1 Cor. 15. Hard to misunderstand that one. Study it yourself. :thumbs: But hey, I don't think Jordan wants this to be another LS debate.
 

preacher4truth

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I just take my Gospel from 1 Cor. 15. Hard to misunderstand that one. Study it yourself. :thumbs: But hey, I don't think Jordan wants this to be another LS debate.

Yes, hard to misunderstand that one yet you do exactly that and misrepresent, label and falsely accuse others as per my last post.

Now, don't go skirting the issue as if you're now innocent. You elaborated on it, blamed, accused, pointed the finger and extended the issue so face it, own up and don't point to Jordan about it as if it were all on him.

You and others show a profound misunderstanding of the Gospel and love to say others are LS (something you don't quite get in the first place) which really says this about you-- that you are of greasy grace and of say a prayer on your way to heaven easy-believism.
 

John of Japan

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Yes, hard to misunderstand that one yet you do exactly that and misrepresent, label and falsely accuse others as per my last post.

Now, don't go skirting the issue as if you're now innocent. You elaborated on it, blamed, accused, pointed the finger and extended the issue so face it, own up and don't point to Jordan about it as if it were all on him.
If I am wrong in saying John MacArthur teaches LS, then so is everyone who has written about it: Martuneac, Pickering, Ryrie and many others. I'm in good company.
You and others show a profound misunderstanding of the Gospel and love to say others are LS (something you don't quite get in the first place) which really says this about you-- that you are of greasy grace and of say a prayer on your way to heaven easy-believism.
This is totally untrue. I do not teach what you call "say a prayer on your way to heaven easy-believism." In fact, I have actively opposed this in my ministry: in my Japanese textbook on personal evangelism, my church, my teaching ministry and directly to the president of the Bible school I taught in at the time down in Tokyo.

This makes you a bearer of false witness, which is condemned over and over in the Bible, including especially the Decalogue, where your action in bearing false witness is classified along with idolatry, murder, adultery, etc.

Thus, I am immediately putting you on my ignore list.
 
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Jordan Kurecki

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I wish everyone on the BB would read The Way of the Master. I added this book to my wish list and I wish you would do the same with the Way of the Master. I am talking about the 300+ page book.

I'm actually reading that one now, Ray Comfort's method of evangelism is extremely biblical and has caused me to completely change my style of evangelism, I have personally seen using the law bear fruit.
 

JonC

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If I am wrong in saying John MacArthur teaches LS, then so is everyone who has written about it: Martuneac, Pickering, Ryrie and many others. I'm in good company.

Of course you are not wrong in saying MacArthur teaches LS. While I do not know if you and John MacArthur work off a same definition (and do not want to derail the thread in that direction) MacArthur has repeatedly confirmed LS (personally, I can't say that I disagree with him).

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFED04EBD441A91FD
http://www.gty.org/Resources/Articles/A114
 

quantumfaith

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If I am wrong in saying John MacArthur teaches LS, then so is everyone who has written about it: Martuneac, Pickering, Ryrie and many others. I'm in good company.
This is totally untrue. I do not teach what you call "say a prayer on your way to heaven easy-believism." In fact, I have actively opposed this in my ministry: in my Japanese textbook on personal evangelism, my church, my teaching ministry and directly to the president of the Bible school I taught in at the time down in Tokyo.

This makes you a bearer of false witness, which is condemned over and over in the Bible, including especially the Decalogue, where your action in bearing false witness is classified along with idolatry, murder, adultery, etc.

Thus, I am immediately putting you on my ignore list.

I see that you are yet another target of hubris. I hope you can manage to keep to the ignore. I have done that before but feel compelled at times to remind one of their over exuberant hubris.
 

John of Japan

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Of course you are not wrong in saying MacArthur teaches LS. While I do not know if you and John MacArthur work off a same definition (and do not want to derail the thread in that direction) MacArthur has repeatedly confirmed LS (personally, I can't say that I disagree with him).

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFED04EBD441A91FD
http://www.gty.org/Resources/Articles/A114
Just got back from two days in the big city working on visa renewal.

Thank you for the confirmation. As far as I know, my definition is the same as his. I have and have read The Gospel According to Jesus, but my first encounter with the doctrine was in 1971 in a discussion in a "Teachings of Jesus" class taught by Arend ten Pas, whose book is in MacArthur's bibliography. That's before the LS term was even used, to my knowledge. (I'm pretty sure that's also before preacher4truth was born or even thought of! :smilewinkgrin:)
 
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