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FBI’s Trump-Russia probe knocks White House on its heels

InTheLight

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In other words, you can't. I thought so.

Is Breitbart News a good enough source for you?

Thursday at a press conference to announce his pick of Alexander Acosta for the vacant Secretary of Labor post, President Donald Trump called the media fixation on he and his campaign’s dealings with Russia “ruse,” adding he had “nothing to do with Russia.”

Partial transcript as follows:

REPORTER: Thank you. Yes or no answer on one of these questions involving Russia. Can you say whether you are aware that anyone who advised your campaign had contacts with Russia during the course of the election?

TRUMP: Well, I told you, General Flynn, obviously, was dealing, so that’s one person, but he was dealing, as he should have been.

REPORTER: During the election?

TRUMP: No, nobody that I know of.

REPORTER: You’re not aware of any contacts during the course of the election?

TRUMP: How many times do I have to answer this question?

Trump: 'Russia Is a Ruse' - 'I Have Nothing to Do With Russia' - Breitbart
 

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
Administrator
Is Breitbart News a good enough source for you?
No. It is Fake News on the far right just like MSNBC and MoveOn.org are Fake News on the far left.

he had “nothing to do with Russia.”
He. Himself. President Trump.

Can you say whether you are aware
Aware. Aware of. That he knew of.

nobody that I know of.
That I know of.

Thank you. Your quotes prove my point.
 

Crabtownboy

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No, it doesn't. The pilots and attendants get paid regardless if they are flying. And Air Force One is maintained regardless of whether or not it flies.

Jet fuel costs about $12,000 per flight hour. Florida is less than 2 hours from DC.

Do some research. Article after article quotes a figure of $200,000 or over an hour during a trip.

DEA? Why? USSS, yes, but they are being paid anyway. Maybe some overtime but good planning can minimize that.
Just like they had to spend similar amounts to protect the Clinton's home, Bush's ranch, etc., etc.

Lots of overtime. I noticed you ignored how much it costs local governments and it is tax payers that foot that bill also. It is not just per hour, it is also how many hours.

Yes, they had to spend money for Bush, Obama, etc. But Trump has already taken more trips in the first three months than Obama took in a year.

Trump's first month alone illustrates a hefty price tag — he has spent nearly $10 million in travel during his first 30 days as president, while Obama spent $12 million per year.

How Much Were Obama's Travel Costs Compared To Trump's? POTUS Trips Come With A Price Tag

If Trump's cost of travel stays consistent throughout his entire presidency, he is set to outpace Obama by a long shot. If he stays in office for one term, his travel costs could reach $480 million. A second term could see that price tag skyrocketing to $960 million. In comparison, Obama's travel cost hit a mere $97 million throughout his eight years in the White House.

How Much Were Obama's Travel Costs Compared To Trump's? POTUS Trips Come With A Price Tag
 

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
Administrator
Do some research. Article after article quotes a figure of $200,000 or over an hour during a trip.
Do some math. The $200,000 per hour figure includes the salary of the crew, who are paid anyway. It includes maintenance on the aircraft that would be done anyway. It includes depreciation on the plane, which would depreciate sitting at Andrews.

And local law enforcement are under no obligation to provide any services for a visiting President.
 

InTheLight

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He. Himself. President Trump.

Aware. Aware of. That he knew of.

That I know of.

Thank you. Your quotes prove my point.

Statement was made that Trump said that people on his campaign did not have contact with Russian government officials.
You challenged that claim asking for a quote and a link.
I post evidence that Trump said people on his campaign did not talk to Russian officials.
You say that proves your point.

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Crabtownboy

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Do some math. The $200,000 per hour figure includes the salary of the crew, who are paid anyway. It includes maintenance on the aircraft that would be done anyway. It includes depreciation on the plane, which would depreciate sitting at Andrews.

And local law enforcement are under no obligation to provide any services for a visiting President.

1. You are chasing smoke. The costs are well publicized regardless of how you spin it. Trump is costing the taxpayers a fortune, more than any other president.
2. Maintenance costs are higher as travel required additional maintenance.
3. I'd like to see a credible reference that local law enforcement has not legal obligation to provide security for a visiting president.

If there are no additional costs why is it that the Secret Service ask for an additional $60 million to cover their increased costs for Trump's travels?
 

InTheLight

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THAT HE KNEW OF!

Well, yes, THAT HE KNEW OF. What else can someone give a statement about, other than what they know?

So there are a couple of possibilities.
1. He doesn't know that his campaign aides are in contact with Russians.
2. He knows and he's lying.

Apparently you are going with #1. That doesn't say much about his ability to control his own people, does it? Or his oft-cited contention that he "surrounds himself with only the very best people."
 

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
Administrator
That doesn't say much about his ability to control his own people, does it?
He didn't control his campaign people. His campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, did all that. He was a little busy stumping, studying, etc., for much hands on management. That is what campaign MANAGERS are for.

Or his oft-cited contention that he "surrounds himself with only the very best people."
Yes, Kellyanne Conway is one of the very best. She got him elected President, after all. Her electoral college strategy was flawless.
 

InTheLight

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He didn't control his campaign people. His campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, did all that. He was a little busy stumping, studying, etc., for much hands on management. That is what campaign MANAGERS are for.

Yes, Kellyanne Conway is one of the very best. She got him elected President, after all. Her electoral college strategy was flawless.

Trump said that people in his campaign had not talked to Russian officials and he was wrong.

That is all.
 

FollowTheWay

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What FBI agent claimed this?
What circumstances?
What Trump organization?

Speculation is not facts.

And BTW, people running for office absolutely do speak in an attempt to foster a vote for themselves, which BTW is an attempt to affect an election. It's called campaigning. So what?



Here's a fact;

Oct 20, 2016 - In Ohio, Trump told supporters that "the bottom line is we're going to win."

Here's another fact;

You just claimed Trump "lies all the time".

Here's another fact;

Trump won <--- past tense of win.

Here's another fact:

You just claimed something that is FALSE!

Here's another fact;

Making false claims is lying.

Nothing more amusing then hearing a false accuser wag their finger claiming others lie!



Lose it. Why? If it is important to them to have health insurance, they have every option to go purchase it like everyone else who wants it.



Yes, for years and years. My choice to not purchase it.



For the same reason many were killed before the Viet Nam conflict.



Talking points fail you and does your historical knowledge of Nguyễn Sinh Cung,



Yes, Right after you sign up for it.



Nonsense! Being a senior citizen does not prohibit you from purchasing any insurance you desire.



God saves lives.



What scripture taught men to know ~

Acts.13
  1. [23] Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

Matt.6
  1. [25] Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

What FBI agent claimed this?
What circumstances?
What Trump organization?

Speculation is not facts.

And BTW, people running for office absolutely do speak in an attempt to foster a vote for themselves, which BTW is an attempt to affect an election. It's called campaigning. So what?



Here's a fact;

Oct 20, 2016 - In Ohio, Trump told supporters that "the bottom line is we're going to win."

Here's another fact;

You just claimed Trump "lies all the time".

Here's another fact;

Trump won <--- past tense of win.

Here's another fact:

You just claimed something that is FALSE!

Here's another fact;

Making false claims is lying.

Nothing more amusing then hearing a false accuser wag their finger claiming others lie!



Lose it. Why? If it is important to them to have health insurance, they have every option to go purchase it like everyone else who wants it.



Yes, for years and years. My choice to not purchase it.



For the same reason many were killed before the Viet Nam conflict.



Talking points fail you and does your historical knowledge of Nguyễn Sinh Cung,



Yes, Right after you sign up for it.



Nonsense! Being a senior citizen does not prohibit you from purchasing any insurance you desire.



God saves lives.



What scripture taught men to know ~

Acts.13
  1. [23] Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

Matt.6
  1. [25] Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

What FBI agent claimed this?
What circumstances?
What Trump organization?

Speculation is not facts.

And BTW, people running for office absolutely do speak in an attempt to foster a vote for themselves, which BTW is an attempt to affect an election. It's called campaigning. So what?



Here's a fact;

Oct 20, 2016 - In Ohio, Trump told supporters that "the bottom line is we're going to win."

Here's another fact;

You just claimed Trump "lies all the time".

Here's another fact;

Trump won <--- past tense of win.

Here's another fact:

You just claimed something that is FALSE!

Here's another fact;

Making false claims is lying.

Nothing more amusing then hearing a false accuser wag their finger claiming others lie!



Lose it. Why? If it is important to them to have health insurance, they have every option to go purchase it like everyone else who wants it.



Yes, for years and years. My choice to not purchase it.



For the same reason many were killed before the Viet Nam conflict.



Talking points fail you and does your historical knowledge of Nguyễn Sinh Cung,



Yes, Right after you sign up for it.



Nonsense! Being a senior citizen does not prohibit you from purchasing any insurance you desire.



God saves lives.



What scripture taught men to know ~

Acts.13
  1. [23] Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

Matt.6
  1. [25] Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?


FBI Director Comey confirms probe of possible coordination between Kremlin and Trump campaign

FBI Director James B. Comey acknowledged Monday that his agency is conducting an investigation into possible coordination between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign in a counterintelligence probe that could reach all the way to the White House and may last for months.

FBI Director Comey confirms probe of possible coordination between Kremlin and Trump campaign
 

FollowTheWay

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You asked for Trump lies. here's a whooper. Trump vows ‘insurance for everybody’ in Obamacare replacement plan

Another one.


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I could go on all night. This man is an habitual liar.
Trump wrong on Sen. Blumenthal's CNN interview and Vietnam
Trump wrong on Sen. Blumenthal's CNN interview and Vietnam
 
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Lewis

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FBI Director Comey confirms probe of possible coordination between Kremlin and Trump campaign

FBI Director James B. Comey acknowledged Monday that his agency is conducting an investigation into possible coordination between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign in a counterintelligence probe that could reach all the way to the White House and may last for months.

FBI Director Comey confirms probe of possible coordination between Kremlin and Trump campaign
Director Comey also stated that there has been evidence found of collusion between Russians and the Trump campaign.

The FBI also investigated Hillary Clinton. How did that turn out?
 

Lewis

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Director Comey also stated that there has been evidence found of collusion between Russians and the Trump campaign.

The FBI also investigated Hillary Clinton. How did that turn out?
Well, I pressed enter and had a typo in my comment above.

FBI Director Comey stated that there has been No Evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Also, Obama's own Director of National Intelligence James Clapper stated that:
"neither the N.S.A., F.B.I. and C.I.A., with my office, the Director of National Intelligence, had anything, that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians." - LINK
 
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Shadowlands

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All the talk about legal and illegal surveillance and possible electronic devices.

When a person puts in his name into the arena of high office, the Secret Service
has a responsibility to protect him. That is known as close surveillance. That
can include monitoring communications. Read the fine print. Can the monitoring
be used illegally? It shouldn't, but those responsible for conducting the actions
must be morally strong people, with solid footing in Biblical doctrine. Unfortunately,
this can never be the case. So, was Mr. Trump and his associates monitored? Yes.

Who has the responsibility to review and clarify the information for possible wrong
doing? Tough call, because it's a tough job.
 

carpro

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There is evidence linking Russians to people that worked for the Trump campaign, i.e. Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn.



There is evidence linking the Russians to most of the legislators in Washington, including many prominent democrats.
 
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