FBI: Over Four Times More People Stabbed to Death Than Killed with Rifles of Any Kind

[TCassidy]

Not so the word in thy is singular, you is plural.

Uh, no, "you" is generic, singular, plural, nominative, or objective.

And what does that have to do with the word for "murder?"

Not to mention the word "thy" does not occur in that verse, even in the KJV.

If you mean the first "you" it is 2nd person plural.

If you mean the "thou" in the KJV, there is no pronoun. It says, literally, "Don't murder."

 

[David Kent]

Uh, no, "you" is generic, singular, plural, nominative, or objective.

And what does that have to do with the word for "murder?"

Not to mention the word "thy" does not occur in that verse, even in the KJV.

Touché. I should have said thou. Singular, You is Plural.

 

[TCassidy]

If it is OK to kill, it OK commit adultery, steal, bear false witness, covet;

God often, in the Old Testament, instructed his people to kill. What he outlawed was murder.

Exodus 20:13 Don't murder.

Deuteronomy 5:17 Don't murder.

Romans 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Don't murder, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Again, a more reliable translation may be in order.

 

[TCassidy]

Touché. I should have said thou. Singular, You is Plural.

See my post #21.

 

[David Kent]

7

See my post #21.

You is not generic, It may be used as generic in modern English but in the past it was plural and that is why the different pronouns are used in the KJV and earlier translations. But rather than digress further I will not reply on these anymore.

 

[church mouse guy]

Christians are not supposed to be disarmed and helpless the way the Germans passed gun control and disarmed the Jews in order to lead them to the Holocaust. Everyone has a God-given right to self-defense.

England never enjoyed the freedoms that America has enjoyed England now says that if you are a smoker or if you overweight, they will deny you medical assistance for economic reasons.

Anyway, here is what Jesus said about weapons:

Luke 22:36 (KJV) Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

 

[David Kent]

England never enjoyed the freedoms that America has enjoyed England now says that if you are a smoker or if you overweight, they will deny you medical assistance for economic reasons.

Some people were speaking about it. People say they are causing that themselves. I was once in an Accident and Emergency dept on a Saturday afternoon and a large number of people came in with injuries while playing some sport. If I was thinking that sort of way I would put those at the top of my list

Children in the UK are given frequent medical checks while at school.
A few years ago British chef, Jamie Oliver after a campaign in Britain to Make school meals healthier, visited a school in the US. i don't know what state it was in, but he said it was the most obese city, in the most obese state of the most obese country in the world. He visited a class of 6 years old and held up a selection of vegetables and not one child could name any one of them. They did not know that fries come from potatoes. He visited a family that lived on frozen fries and pizza. The 12 year old was enormous, I cannot remember how large, but Jamie was so concerned that he took the family for a medial check up. He said (To the camera) "I can't believe that a 12 year old has never had a medical check." When he saw the child the doctor said "I think he may have diabetes." but after all the tests the doctor said that he hadn't but was in danger of getting it if he didn't severely lose weight.

 

[David Kent]

Anyway, here is what Jesus said about weapons:

Luke 22:36 (KJV) Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Yes but then he told them not to use them after Peter cut of a man's ear.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The FBI Uniform Crime Report (UCR) for 2016 shows more than four times as many people were stabbed to death than were killed with rifles of any kind.
And because the category of rifles covers every type of rifle, this means there would be an even greater divide between the number of people stabbed to death versus those shot to death with an AR-15 or similar rifle.

According to FBI: UCR Table 12, there were approximately 374 people shot and killed with rifles of any kind. There were 1,604 people killed with “knives or cutting instruments.”

FBI: Over Four Times More People Stabbed to Death Than Killed with Rifles of Any Kind - Breitbart

Stabbed to death with what...knives, forks, ice picks, screw drivers, sharpened sticks blah blah

 

[David Kent]

I will just say that I feel safe in my home. I would not in your country.

I understood that the second amendment applied to militias not to individuals, but the gun lobby have taken it over.

 

[Don]

I will just say that I feel safe in my home. I would not in your country.

I understood that the second amendment applied to militias not to individuals, but the gun lobby have taken it over.

Define "militia."

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Should I surrender my toothpicks I store in the cupboard?

Yes but then he told them not to use them after Peter cut of a man's ear.

So was Christ a confused individual?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I will just say that I feel safe in my home. I would not in your country.

I understood that the second amendment applied to militias not to individuals, but the gun lobby have taken it over.

your British?

 

[HankD]

I will just say that I feel safe in my home. I would not in your country.

I understood that the second amendment applied to militias not to individuals, but the gun lobby have taken it over.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

No wonder you are confused :

We the people ARE the militia!

HankD

 

[TCassidy]

I will just say that I feel safe in my home. I would not in your country.

Then you are living in Fantasy Land. Uniform Crime Statistics Report came out last week. You are 6 times more likely to be robbed in London than in New York. You are 3 times more likely to be raped in London than in New York. You are 1.5 times more likely to be murdered in London than New York. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.

I understood that the second amendment applied to militias not to individuals,

Then you have very little knowledge of the English language.

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Dr. Roy Copperud, Professor of English at the University of Southern California and the author of American Usage and Style: The Consensus.

"The words 'A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,' constitutes a present participle, (rather than a clause). It is used as an adjective, modifying 'militia,' which is followed by the main clause of the sentence (subject 'the right', verb 'shall'). The "to keep and bear arms" is asserted as an essential for maintaining a militia.

The sentence does not restrict the right to keep and bear arms, nor does it state or imply possession of the right elsewhere or by others than the people; it simply makes a positive statement with respect to a right of the people."

The right is not granted by the amendment; its existence is assumed. The thrust of the sentence is that the right shall be preserved inviolate for the sake of ensuring a militia, when and if needed.

[Question] Is the right of the people to keep and bear arms conditioned upon whether or not a well regulated militia, is, in fact necessary to the security of a free State, and if that condition is not existing, is the statement 'the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed' null and void?"

[Answer] "No such condition is expressed or implied. The right to keep and bear arms is not said by the amendment to depend on the existence of a militia. No condition is stated or implied as to the relation of the right to keep and bear arms and to the necessity of a well-regulated militia as a requisite to the security of a free state. The right to keep and bear arms is deemed unconditional by the entire sentence."

The right is assumed to exist and to be unconditional, as previously stated. It is invoked here specifically for the sake of the militia.

--------End Quoted Material

 

[Don]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

No wonder you are confused :

We the people ARE the militia!

HankD

(that's why I asked him to define militia....)

 

[Reynolds]

(that's why I asked him to define militia....)

Mitia at that time was every man of service age. It did not refer to formal membership in anything. Regulated meant armed with the armamament of a REGULAR soldier in the standing army.

 

[church mouse guy]

The British seem inclined to follow the German example of gun control in spite of the fact that they have a large foreign population that despises them and wishes them every harm. In their medical system, they have now suggested that smokers and overweight people should be denied medical treatment. God-given rights are absent from England, replaced by government controls.

 

[David Kent]

Then you are living in Fantasy Land. Uniform Crime Statistics Report came out last week. You are 6 times more likely to be robbed in London than in New York. You are 3 times more likely to be raped in London than in New York. You are 1.5 times more likely to be murdered in London than New York. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.

I don't live in London

 

[David Kent]

The British seem inclined to follow the German example of gun control in spite of the fact that they have a large foreign population that despises them and wishes them every harm. In their medical system, they have now suggested that smokers and overweight people should be denied medical treatment. God-given rights are absent from England, replaced by government controls.

I have already replied to that nonsense