Finally an end to birtherism?

[targus]

To invent controversy where none exists is retarded.

The previous claims were that the birth certificate was destroyed when they computerized the records and that the birth certificate was destroyed by fire.

Why were those claims previously made?

"Birthers" were not the ones saying that - it was Obama's supporters.

They created the controversy.

Well that plus Obama refusing to release it.

Probably because he is a lot smarter than you! He allowed it to continue to deflect attention away from his terrible domestic and international policies.

Obama must be smarter than the Clintons too - they were the first ones to ask to see it.

He produced it now to destroy the candidacy of the one who might be his strongest opponent due to his great wealth.

Too bad it isn't going to work.

It simply looks like Obama caved under Trump's pressure.

Will he now produce his college transcripts too?

 

[Robert Snow]

I'd say Trump made Obama look weak.

Obama was finally forced to do something that he apparently did not want to do.

Trump is now asking about Obama's college records - another thing that Obama to date has refused to release.

Let's see if he folds on that too.

Typical Targus! No matter what President Obama does, those like you will criticize. If he doesn't release his college records, he's hiding something. If he does, he's folding. Just admit that you don't like him no matter what he does. At least be honest!

 

[Robert Snow]

This one today doesn't seem to have a seal - don't think the first one did either, could be wrong.

This is a copy from the left edge and copied onto the green paper since originals from this time were white - couple years later anyway were white.

Wow, it took 57 posts before someone mentioned this one is fake. The birthers are alive and well on the Baptistboard! :laugh:

 

[Robert Snow]

The problem is, young people today understand the computer better than the folks who forged this document. It's only been hours and you can find numerous videos showing this long form a fake. Here is a good one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4ehRXH19Zc

Another birther makes his appearance. What a joke! :laugh:

 

[exscentric]

I find it of interest that I can see no sign of a raised seal on the pdf pic everyone is dealing with online yet on Nightly News one of the reporters said she saw the certificate and felt the raised seal.

 

[Winman]

Another birther makes his appearance. What a joke! :laugh:

Robert, people are downloading this document, often directly from the White House and showing it to be a layered false document. They show you how you can do this yourself and prove it to yourself.

Try it yourself and see.

 

[InTheLight]

Will he now produce his college transcripts too?

Whatever for? Seriously, what is the point?

(Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard.)

 

[InTheLight]

Robert, people are downloading this document, often directly from the White House and showing it to be a layered false document.

Yes, because the FBI and/or the CIA can't make a fake document that would fool a 20 year old. Sheesh!

 

[Salty]

Typical Targus! No matter what President Bush does, those like you will criticize. If he doesn't release his military records, he's hiding something. If he does, he's folding. Just admit that you don't like him no matter what he does. At least be honest!

I did not make any changes with the above quote, I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people. Thank You.

Bill Clinton, POTUS


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal#cite_note-20

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Who on the BB claimed he had released the long form? I only remember the correct claim that he had released the abstract.

The people who told us his form was already released know who they are.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

He produced a valid birth certificate in 2008.

Baloney. He released it today. See Mr. Cassidy's post.

 

[TCassidy]

The people who told us his form was already released know who they are.

Nobody, to my knowledge, claimed the long form had been released. Please tell me where to find the posting that made such a claim.

 

[TCassidy]

Baloney. He released it today. See Mr. Cassidy's post.

He released a print out of the electronic Birth Certificate (abstract) in 2008. It was legally sufficient to establish his US citizenship. The long form was not necessary, but to shut Trump up, he posted it. End of story.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

If you didn't make the claim, don't worry about it. And you don't even have to leave this thread, to find one. Someone right above me just made the claim.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

He released a print out of the electronic Birth Certificate (abstract) in 2008. It was legally sufficient to establish his US citizenship. The long form was not necessary, but to shut Trump up, he posted it. End of story.

No. Not end of story. Sorry, but you don't intimidate me, Harley or no Harley. He has not lived up to his promise of being open & transparent, and his refusal to release a long-form is part of that broken peomise. The form he released in 2008 would not qualify one for a fishing liscense.

He's a liar. End of story.

 

[Winman]

Yes, because the FBI and/or the CIA can't make a fake document that would fool a 20 year old. Sheesh!

Actually, the government has often hired young hackers to teach them how to defense against hacking. Kids today have grown up with computers and the Internet and often are far more skilled than older adults.

And I seriously doubt this document was created by our intelligence agencies, that would foolish. No, this would be a closely guarded inside job.

Did you even watch that video? That fellow took this document apart in seconds. If you would have listened, you cannot do this with a photocopy where all parts of the image are produced at once. This document was made in layers as easily demonstrated in Adobe Illuminator.

This document was just released today, and already there are many videos showing it is a fraud, and giving simple instructions so you can download this document and see for yourself.

Who is believeing conspiracy theories now?

I guarantee this, this is going to get around with the young people, and he is going to lose much support.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

• Finally, the “Signature of Local Registrar” in box 21 may be a desperate attempt at establishing the document’s Hawaiian authenticity. Note to forgers: It is spelled “Ukulele.”

SOURCE

That is really something, ain't it ?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I'll tell you. Roger laughed at us when we read about John Edwards in the Enquirer. That turned out to be true. The more & more I see the vitriol & irrational hatred of people who question where the zero was born, the more I look into it, and the worse it smells. Thanx, Roger & Tom, for convincing me there is something to this.

 

[Robert Snow]

No. Not end of story. Sorry, but you don't intimidate me, Harley or no Harley. He has not lived up to his promise of being open & transparent, and his refusal to release a long-form is part of that broken peomise. The form he released in 2008 would not qualify one for a fishing liscense.

He's a liar. End of story.

It's good to know you aren't intimidated. Of course, people who claim to not being intimidated usually are the ones who are intimidated the most.

 

[Winman]

The short form, while it had many flaws was a much better document than this long form. They would have been alright if they would have printed this document and then presented a photocopy. They made the mistake of releasing a pdf that allows folks to take it apart and shows it was made in layers. They are going to have far more trouble explaining this form, HUGE mistake. They got in a hurry.