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Fiorina: An act of desperation by Cruz???

HankD

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The only good thing IMO about this election is that we are rid of our emperor.

HankD
 

church mouse guy

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Nope it's wrong because you applied it wrong.AlienAlienAlien



Oh I'm sure it does in some cases. Just not the one you're trying to make stick.

So far you have not given a reason and I have said that Democrats are exempt from voting. AlienAlienAlien
 

Zaac

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Trump is crude, as a former strip club owner should be I suppose. I don't care to try to get used to him until he is nominated. Maybe the Dems will dump Hillary and run someone like Biden.

The same Biden that so many on the right have called crazy?Sneaky Things must be really bad in the ivory colored porticos of the GOP Manor House.
 

HankD

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The same Biden that so many on the right have called crazy?Sneaky Things must be really bad in the ivory colored porticos of the GOP Manor House.
Zaac, it seems everyone is acting crazy and things are really bad for all parties.

That means we the sheeple lose no matter what.

Right, so what else is new?


HankD
 

Kevin

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The only good thing IMO about this election is that we are rid of our emperor.

HankD

I only hope that he stays gone and doesn't re-appear at the UN, or some other position where he can become emperor of the world
 

Zaac

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Zaac, it seems everyone is acting crazy and things are really bad for all parties.

That means we the sheeple lose no matter what.

Right, so what else is new?


HankD

Exactly Hank. I'm trying not to pay any attention to any of them I'm so completely disgusted.
 

Zaac

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I only hope that he stays gone and doesn't re-appear at the UN, or some other position where he can become emperor of the world

I wish there were a candidate who wanted to kick the UN out! We give them all that money to treat us like the red headed step-child. No more. Move it to Canada or Mogadishu and see how they like it.
 

church mouse guy

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Umm the reason is because you applied it wrong. ;)



So are the Repubs. In fact I think it's best that you just stay home and skip this election. #too angry to vote

Oh, I am not angry so once again you miss the point.

Still waiting for you to explain how I applied render unto Caesar wrong, since it is standard Protestant and Catholic thinking that it means along these lines:

"Jesus says we can’t have it both ways–if we benefit from secular society, we need to support the infrastructure of society. This can take the form of taxes, military service, jury duty, and informed, conscientious voting."

https://www.crossroadsinitiative.com/media/articles/render-unto-caesar/
 

Zaac

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Oh, I am not angry so once again you miss the point.

Naah. It's pretty much you who is missing the point. And that would explain your errant use of the Scripture.

Still waiting for you to explain how I applied render unto Caesar wrong, since it is standard Protestant and Catholic thinking that it means along these lines:

"Jesus says we can’t have it both ways–if we benefit from secular society, we need to support the infrastructure of society. This can take the form of taxes, military service, jury duty, and informed, conscientious voting."


Oh please show me where Jesus says this? You're just trying to twist Scripture so that the point you were trying to make will be valid. That Scripture has nothing to do with voting. How on earth would you render voting unto Caesar?:rolleyes:
 

church mouse guy

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Naah. It's pretty much you who is missing the point. And that would explain your errant use of the Scripture.




Oh please show me where Jesus says this? You're just trying to twist Scripture so that the point you were trying to make will be valid. That Scripture has nothing to do with voting. How on earth would you render voting unto Caesar?:rolleyes:

As the source defined the point, it is standard conservative theology and nothing new. You are wrong to say that the idea is mine:

In the Gospels Jesus compels his disciples to render to Caesar what is Caesar's. Meaning that Christians are obligated to participate in the function of civil government and life under the law as long as it does not violate the terms, principles, or instruction of scripture. To be sure, rendering to Caesar in our nation includes paying our taxes, but it means a good deal more as well.

Since Caesar in modern day America is you and me, then we are to play our part in the role of government faithfully. The very minimum of what that includes is the requirement to vote. To not exercise this simple obligation is to, by act and deed, NOT render to Caesar as Christ instructed

http://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2008/02/25/why_no_vote_is_no_option
 

Zaac

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As the source defined the point, it is standard conservative theology and nothing new.

Standard conservative theology would have dealt with the words contextually as they apply to all of Scripture and maintaining ITS integrity as a whole.

You are wrong to say that the idea is mine:

The idea WAS yours. Did someone else type that"Caesar requires citizens to vote in elections"?

In the Gospels Jesus compels his disciples to render to Caesar what is Caesar's. Meaning that Christians are obligated to participate in the function of civil government and life under the law as long as it does not violate the terms, principles, or instruction of scripture. To be sure, rendering to Caesar in our nation includes paying our taxes, but it means a good deal more as well.

There's a difference between paying taxes and giving back to the government money that they printed, and requiring someone to vote

Since Caesar in modern day America is you and me,

Ummm, no. The principle has not changed. The government ( as represented by Caesar) is still the government that leads respective nations today. And our Caesar DOES NOT require that we vote.

then we are to play our part in the role of government faithfully.

You don't even know what you're saying. The government is still the government. Unless you're working for the government as its representative, then you are NOT Caesar.

The very minimum of what that includes is the requirement to vote.

A bunch of hooey. Where again does the government require us to vote?

To not exercise this simple obligation is to, by act and deed, NOT render to Caesar as Christ instructed

And you and anyone who says that are still 100%, INCORRECT.
 
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