Flaws of Arminianism

[atpollard]

"WHOEVER...WHOEVER...WHOEVER"

"WHOEVER" = "him who is without sin" and "all the Father has given to Me" (John 6:39) ... which group do you fall in?
(I did not come to Jesus from the first group, so I must be one of those that the Father gave to the Son ... John 6:44)

 

[RipponRedeaux]

When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed. (Acts 13:48)

 

[Marooncat79]

Hahahaha

ok Van. Let me help you here. Wrath= eventual hell

again. You refuse to engage the passages posted involving Acts alone.

Your #2 above is irrelevant

the Philemon passage is addressed to believers so your objection while noted is not applicable

No one and I mean no one believes that God made Robots Van, so whatever that means it’s irrelevant to what we are discussing

again Van

why do you not interact with Gods Word as was posted?

those passages seem to be pretty clear to me

why do you hate Gods Word?

you claim to be a believer

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Let me help you here. Wrath= eventual hell

Ah, Van doesn't align himself with orthodoxy regarding Hell. He calls those who oppose his unbiblical views "The eternal torment crowd."

 

[agedman]

Some among the Pharisees feared that they would be targeted if came out openly for Jesus, same way among Muslims today who get saved!

This is true also in China.

Hollywood regularly mocks and damages believers.

 

[atpollard]

Ah, Van doesn't align himself with orthodoxy regarding Hell. He calls those who oppose his unbiblical views "The eternal torment crowd."

He redefines a lot of traditional theological and Biblical terms.

 

[agedman]

Hahahaha

ok Van. Let me help you here. Wrath= eventual hell

again. You refuse to engage the passages posted involving Acts alone.

Your #2 above is irrelevant

the Philemon passage is addressed to believers so your objection while noted is not applicable

No one and I mean no one believes that God made Robots Van, so whatever that means it’s irrelevant to what we are discussing

again Van

why do you not interact with Gods Word as was posted?

those passages seem to be pretty clear to me

why do you hate Gods Word?

you claim to be a believer

Ah, Van doesn't align himself with orthodoxy regarding Hell. He calls those who oppose his unbiblical views "The eternal torment crowd."

Becareful, you might be labeled an "idiot" by him.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Becareful, you might be labeled an "idiot" by him.

Oh, he has already called me that several times. And he has called others the same.

 

[atpollard]

Becareful, you might be labeled an "idiot" by him.

Doesn't EVERYONE think that Particular Baptists are idiots? (Most are just polite.)
I find it hilarious that "Whatever denomination you belong to, you probably disagree with something that I believe as a 'fundamental' Biblical Truth." (TULIP, Credobaptism, ECT, Continuationism)
As a former Atheist ... God has quite the sense of humor.

 

[Marooncat79]

Sadly, with his view, he has set himself against the Word of God and the Gospel

I would think a true believer would embrace the Word

liberals do the same exact thing as Van, they say Yes that is what the Bible says but we do not believe it

examples Liberals say yes the Bible teaches the resurrection, but we believe otherwise

That’s the dangerous game that Van and others play with the WoG and Election

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Van, do you know the story of Lydia? What does Acts 16:14 say? "The Lord opened her heart to respond to Paul's message.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Van, Apollos was welcomed by the disciples in Achaia. He was a great help to those who by grace had believed. (Acts 18:27)

 

[Marooncat79]

Seriously, at one point, I was like Van and others on BB; however, when I was confronted with the truth of Gods Word, I had to remain faithful to it

I grew up in an Apostate Church that was horrible. That Church still is a mess.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Van, what did Paul write to the church at Philippi in 1:29? It has been granted to you on behalf of Christ to believe on him.

God granted, gave, gifted them with saving grace.

 

[Iconoclast]

Can you prove it wrong? Of course not.
Can you prove Jesus didn't mean "whoever" when He said "whoever"? Of course not.

In many ways it has been proven and posted by many members here.
It has been also demonstrated you are unable to grasp it, but are instead content to post your defective ideas.
In Jn3 it has been explained, it is literally, everyone believing, every believing one, everyone believing and continuing on in a believing condition.....even in some translations where they put the word whosoever......it is not by itself , but rather Whosoever believes.....that is NOT all men whoever lived.
So your posts are a direct and shameful denial of scripture, and a direct attack on believers who understand the scripture.

 

[robycop3]

In many ways it has been proven and posted by many members here.
It has been also demonstrated you are unable to grasp it, but are instead content to post your defective ideas.
In Jn3 it has been explained, it is literally, everyone believing, every believing one, everyone believing and continuing on in a believing condition.....even in some translations where they put the word whosoever......it is not by itself , but rather Whosoever believes.....that is NOT all men whoever lived.
So your posts are a direct and shameful denial of scripture, and a direct attack on believers who understand the scripture.

Yes, if a crowd hears the Gospel, whoever among that crowd who chooses to believe it & abide by it is saved.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Yes, if a crowd hears the Gospel, whoever among that crowd who chooses to believe it & abide by it is saved.

"Chooses to believe" is an odd concept.

Please respond to Phil. 1:29, Acts 13:48, 16:14 and 18:27 that I have posted.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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