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For Those that Think COVID-19 is Like the Flu...

Earth Wind and Fire

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Trump is the right leader for this time. He's got a keen eye for finding the right balance. He sensed this was not just a normal flu. Maybe not that deadly, but highly transmittable and more deadly for that reason alone. He made the call, and it was the right one.

And now, the numbers are way down, and I give him the lion's share of the credit. The projections were likely high from the get go, but Trump's response lowered them even further.

Imagine if Hillary was in charge! Imagine NY and all other major cities with unrestricted China travel in February and March. Imagine the spin from the media defending her and praising her non-racist approach.

Now Trump has the task of finding the right time to open the country back up for business. I think he'll nail this one also. I predict it's going to be sooner than most think.
And just imagine if he didn’t wait so long before taking this to serious proportions! It was a nothing burger right!
 

Wingman68

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Article pretty much begins by acknowledging they have no proof. That headline doesn’t care about such trivial things though. Goodness gracious. More panic inducing from the liberal media. Oh wait this is Breitbart. Whoops.

Yeah, they weren’t there to hear the screams, & those who were aren’t looking to come out with it. That’s the way it works in commie countries. It’s also the way it works here......with the leftist media, & other assorted leftists......they always rush to take the side of China. Why is that? I figured you might know.
 

Reynolds

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Trump is the right leader for this time. He's got a keen eye for finding the right balance. He sensed this was not just a normal flu. Maybe not that deadly, but highly transmittable and more deadly for that reason alone. He made the call, and it was the right one.

And now, the numbers are way down, and I give him the lion's share of the credit. The projections were likely high from the get go, but Trump's response lowered them even further.

Imagine if Hillary was in charge! Imagine NY and all other major cities with unrestricted China travel in February and March. Imagine the spin from the media defending her and praising her non-racist approach.

Now Trump has the task of finding the right time to open the country back up for business. I think he'll nail this one also. I predict it's going to be sooner than most think.
This is the first major disagreement I have with Trump policy. I say turn the economy loose. SC and Ga have their economy shut down but have the hotels and beaches packed with spring break kids. Its a sham is all it is.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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This is the first major disagreement I have with Trump policy. I say turn the economy loose. SC and Ga have their economy shut down but have the hotels and beaches packed with spring break kids. Its a sham is all it is.
So the restaurants are also open?
 

Use of Time

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Yeah, they weren’t there to hear the screams, & those who were aren’t looking to come out with it. That’s the way it works in commie countries. It’s also the way it works here......with the leftist media, & other assorted leftists......they always rush to take the side of China. Why is that? I figured you might know.

I didn’t rush to anything. I don’t have any information. Neither does this article. I could write an article like that but you guys always want to a smoking gun when it’s your side. When it’s others? Factual information and named sources don’t matter. You can just write whatever you want and post it as the truth.
 

Wingman68

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I didn’t rush to anything. I don’t have any information. Neither does this article. I could write an article like that but you guys always want to a smoking gun when it’s your side. When it’s others? Factual information and named sources don’t matter. You can just write whatever you want and post it as the truth.
Well they do have actual stats of all the thousands of cell service contracts that just disappeared, & were not picked up by any other service, but our media is not interested in following up on those stories, just the ones that can be negative to the tune of 91% about Trump. Despite their best efforts, Trump continues to gain approval. They are flummoxed.
 

Use of Time

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Well they do have actual stats of all the thousands of cell service contracts that just disappeared, & were not picked up by any other service, but our media is not interested in following up on those stories, just the ones that can be negative to the tune of 91% about Trump. Despite their best efforts, Trump continues to gain approval. They are flummoxed.

Most of that had nothing at all to do with what I said but you are certainly playing the deflection game again.

Spare me with the crying about the media. You’ve just shown me what your criteria for the media is. Laziness and fearmongering. If Breitbart wants to tell the truth they can stop being lazy and take a shot at it. They won’t because they have to keep cranking out fodder. Maybe they should go investigate the story about the cellphones going dark over there? Or did they write that information too?
 
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Gold Dragon

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Article pretty much begins by acknowledging they have no proof. That headline doesn’t care about such trivial things though. Goodness gracious. More panic inducing from the liberal media. Oh wait this is Breitbart. Whoops.

The video in the Breitbart link shows the evidence they have which is a news report out of the Falun Gong news network, notorious for their anti-Chinese government messaging. This religious group is a bit of a complicated story if you are not familiar but I would say they are about as trustworthy as the Chinese government itself, which is not very.

But the news story evidence is a social media video of an old lady with a Wuhan accent in a car telling her driver about an older man in the bed next to her when she was in hospital being put in a body bag still alive. She then claims this happened multiple times in that hospital.

While this may warrant some kind of investigation by police in one of our societies if this lady had reported and they thought she was credible, it is hardly proof of anything and could be just a tall tale.

The radio free Asia article cites a “source close to the funeral industry” with the surname Ma describes videos of screams from funeral homes, but the article could not verify them. So possibly more rumour.

I’m not saying none of these things are possible but just that these reports are technically in the rumour category at this time.
 
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Use of Time

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The video in the Breitbart link shows the evidence they have which is a news report out of the Falun Gong news network, notorious for their anti-Chinese government messaging. This religious group is a bit of a complicated story if you are not familiar but I would say they are about as trustworthy as the Chinese government itself, which is not very.

But the news story evidence is a social media video of an old lady with a Wuhan accent in a car telling her driver about an older man in the bed next to her when she was in hospital being put in a body bag still alive. She then claims this happened multiple times in that hospital.

While this may warrant some kind of investigation by police in one of our societies if this lady had reported and they thought she was credible, it is hardly proof of anything and could be just a tall tale.

The radio free Asia article cites a “source close to the funeral industry” with the surname Ma describes videos of screams from funeral homes, but the article could not verify them. So possibly more rumour.

I’m not saying none of these things are possible but just that these reports are technically in the rumour category at this time.

That’s what I gathered.
 

Calminian

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Yes, his “senses” picked that up by last week. I don’t think I need to link to what his senses were telling him before.


Way down compared to what?

Compared to projections of the experts you're touting. Trump shut down China travel very early. Your TDS is not allowing you to accept that.
 

Gold Dragon

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Compared to projections of the experts you're touting.

If you read what these projections are saying, they are comparing what they think will happen if you do nothing vs what will happen if you engage in lockdowns and social distancing. So yes, compared to doing nothing and losing potentially millions of lives, Trump is doing well. That is still worse than almost every other country that is currently battling covid19 with the early decisive actions they have taken.

If you are comparing what the old model says vs what the new model says after the latest updates on April 5, those are adjustments based on better data availability of what is currently happening on the ground on a state level. It is not an adjustment because things are going better than expected because of any actions that occurred.
 

Scott Downey

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Most food restaurants are open for carryout where we live in Newport News VA. Order online, then you wait in the parking lot, they bring it to your truck. It is ok, but I prefer to sit down and eat out, so its not the same experience.
 

Wingman68

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Most of that had nothing at all with what I said but you are certainly playing the deflection game again.

Spare me with the crying about the media. You’ve just shown me what your criteria for the media is. Laziness and fearmongering. If Breitbart wants to tell the truth they can stop being lazy and take a shot at it. They won’t because they have to keep cranking out fodder. Maybe they should go investigate the story about the cellphones going dark over there? Or did they write that information too?
How is it that by running that story they are fear mongering? Fear mongering about communist governments? What are you trying to say by being dismissive about such possibilities? Or you just think you win the conversation by BEING dismissive. You excel at it, by the way.
 
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