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Former Trump Ethics Director Calls Arpaio Pardon 'A Harbinger Of Worse to Come'

Crabtownboy

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Really, you are over the top on this one. This was a very minor matter and the Democrats have pardoned some real criminals under Obama and Bill Clinton, who was disbarred for perjury and impeached. Does Clinton remind you of a German in that he likes very young girls or do you think that that is as much over the top as you are with the 1920s stuff?

Contempt of a Federal Court is not a small thing. I thought you were a law and order man. I see you are only a selective law and order person. You liberal!
 

Crabtownboy

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That simply proves that Trump put a court in error back in its place.

Lets be smart here.

You are totally wrong. Contempt of a Federal Court is not an error. He deliberately ignored the court order. That is not a small matter.

Like others you are only a law and order man when it suits you. You LIBERAL!
 

church mouse guy

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Contempt of a Federal Court is not a small thing. I thought you were a law and order man. I see you are only a selective law and order person. You liberal!

All I said was that I am not opposed to the pardon. You are the one who compared it to Hitler. Let's ask you if it is fair to compare Clinton to Germany or to Italy and see if you can answer that a second time. I use Italy because it is said that Mussolini was a serial rapist. Do you retract your over-the-top comparison of this to Hitler? You know, the modern Germans in Germany have joined you in calling Trump names....
 

church mouse guy

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I think the last two CTBoy posts prove he never wanted a serious conversation on this.

I think that you are correct. Imagine sending an 85-year-old to prison because CTBoy is devoid of mercy even though both of the Clintons dodged jail for their crimes.
 

Crabtownboy

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All I said was that I am not opposed to the pardon. You are the one who compared it to Hitler. Let's ask you if it is fair to compare Clinton to Germany or to Italy and see if you can answer that a second time. I use Italy because it is said that Mussolini was a serial rapist. Do you retract your over-the-top comparison of this to Hitler? You know, the modern Germans in Germany have joined you in calling Trump names....

No Hillary is not a serial rapist, so nothing like Mussolini, not is she like Hitler.

Trump is flaunting US law and institutionalizing racism. That is what Hitler did.
 

church mouse guy

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No Hillary is not a serial rapist, so nothing like Mussolini, not is she like Hitler.

Trump is flaunting US law and institutionalizing racism. That is what Hitler did.

Don't be daft--we are talking about the allegations of rape against Bill Clinton. Trump is in charge of immigration according to federal law since shortly after World War II. I don't know what you are talking about racism. Even fascist Peronist Pope Che is worried because the Muslims in the Philippines are threatening to assassinate him and he now wants to be sure that they don't breach the high walls of the Vatican--do you call Pope Che a racist, although he probably is?

Trump did not violate US law by pardoning the Sheriff. You are way over the top. So if you are going to compare Trump to Hitler as the Germans are doing, can we compare JFK and Bill Clinton to Hitler because they liked young girls and can we compare Bill Clinton to Mussolini because they are both accused of being serial rapists? And can we talk about Hillary's dealings with Russia? And can we talk about Bernie Sanders' honeymoon in communist Russia and his time on a communist kibbutz in Israel? Is Bernie a Stalinist? And what about DeBlasio's honeymoon in Havana--is he another murdering Che?

Do you have any mercy for anyone?
 

Reynolds

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You are totally wrong. Contempt of a Federal Court is not an error. He deliberately ignored the court order. That is not a small matter.

Like others you are only a law and order man when it suits you. You LIBERAL!
Liberal, Conservative, Nazi, Communist, whatever?
The court order was an overstep of the court. Sheriff Joe is a Patriot for defying it.
Trump is a Patriot for pardoning him. The LIBERAL Courts are part of the swamp that still must be drained.
 

Crabtownboy

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Liberal, Conservative, Nazi, Communist, whatever?
The court order was an overstep of the court. Sheriff Joe is a Patriot for defying it.
Trump is a Patriot for pardoning him. The LIBERAL Courts are part of the swamp that still must be drained.

So you are saying that anything a court decides that you do not agree with can be ignored and that is fine? Like I said, I thought you a law and order man. You are advocating unlawful actions and disorder.
 

Crabtownboy

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Don't be daft--we are talking about the allegations of rape against Bill Clinton. Trump is in charge of immigration according to federal law since shortly after World War II. I don't know what you are talking about racism. Even fascist Peronist Pope Che is worried because the Muslims in the Philippines are threatening to assassinate him and he now wants to be sure that they don't breach the high walls of the Vatican--do you call Pope Che a racist, although he probably is?

Trump did not violate US law by pardoning the Sheriff. You are way over the top. So if you are going to compare Trump to Hitler as the Germans are doing, can we compare JFK and Bill Clinton to Hitler because they liked young girls and can we compare Bill Clinton to Mussolini because they are both accused of being serial rapists? And can we talk about Hillary's dealings with Russia? And can we talk about Bernie Sanders' honeymoon in communist Russia and his time on a communist kibbutz in Israel? Is Bernie a Stalinist? And what about DeBlasio's honeymoon in Havana--is he another murdering Che?

Do you have any mercy for anyone?

And by pardoning him he is approving contempt for federal court decisions and agreeing with institution racism.
 

church mouse guy

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And by pardoning him he is approving contempt for federal court decisions and agreeing with institution racism.

The Pardon does not specifically address the issue of the court decision, which has not been appealed as far as I know and might have gone to the Supreme Court, although a Pardon does tacitly imply that the person receiving the Pardon has been found guilty. The Pardon does not agree with anything--it merely says that the person found guilty by the court is absolved.

I myself was pardoned once and no one accused the One Who Pardoned Me of showing contempt for the court and being guilty of institutional racism and violating the Law, but I digress....

I don't know where you get this institutional racism charge since you won't answer my question about it but racism has nothing to do with arresting a person for being a criminal and an illegal criminal. I am sure that you yourself do not want to give your address as a safe haven for illegal criminals anymore than the fascist Peronist Papa Che wants the Philippine Isis breaching his very high walls as they have threatened to do, or do you think that Papa Che is a racist, also?

Apparently, you have no mercy for an 85-year-old man so I think that when your turn comes as America might fall into chaos and revolution because of your actions that you should not ask for mercy for yourself, huh?
 

Reynolds

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So you are saying that anything a court decides that you do not agree with can be ignored and that is fine? Like I said, I thought you a law and order man. You are advocating unlawful actions and disorder.
The court was wrong. Trump Trumped the court.
 

carpro

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A totally corrupt Obama administration wanted to prosecute a sheriff for enforcing US law that administration did not want enforced.

Wjth this pardon, justice has been served.
 

777

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Well, what the courts did (Judges Snow (GHWB open-borders appointee and Sue Bolton, open-borders Clinton appointee) to the sheriff was a railroad. Both of the judges had ruled against that Arizona immigration law and Sheriff Joe was denied a repeated request for a trial by jury. This was the SCOTUS ruling they used to do so:

BALDWIN v. NEW YORK 399 U.S. 117 (1970)

which essentially abridged the Sixth, saying if the possible sentence was six months or less, there was no right to a jury trial at all. Joe's was, and then he had to face Bolton, of all people, and she found him guilty. They KNEW there was no way a jury would ever convict him of this, he was an elderly man facing trumped-up charges.
 

church mouse guy

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It is clear that Obama and Hillary Clinton, who has received a de-facto pardon because she is elderly and a former first lady, intended to put the Sheriff in prison for the rest of his life as a bloodlust.
 

carpro

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It is clear that Obama and Hillary Clinton, who has received a de-facto pardon because she is elderly and a former first lady, intended to put the Sheriff in prison for the rest of his life as a bloodlust.

For simply enforcing the law. That's how democrats roll.
 

HankD

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You are totally wrong. Contempt of a Federal Court is not an error. He deliberately ignored the court order. That is not a small matter.

Like others you are only a law and order man when it suits you. You LIBERAL!
I am a Law and Order man. Pardon and Sentence Commutations are part of that schema.

OBTW here is a list of almost 300 which President Obama granted pardon or commutation :

Obama Pardons 2017 Full List: Chelsea Manning, Oscar Lopez Rivera And Others To Get Shortened, Reprieved Sentences

HankD
 

Adonia

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And by pardoning him he is approving contempt for federal court decisions and agreeing with institution racism.

Where is the racism and do you realize how absurd your charge is? I would bet that in Maricopa County where Mr. Arpaio was the sheriff, at least half of his deputies (if not more) were Hispanic and most likely Hispanic of Mexican heritage. Good grief, get a grip!
 
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