From the foundation of the world?

[Van]

if we look at Luke 11:50-51 we see prophets shed their blood "from the foundation of the world." Specially the time from Abel to Zacharias. So a better translation of the phrase would be "since the foundation of the world."

But we should not stop our study there. Just when was "the foundation of the world?" Most, taking the traditional translation as valid, would say somewhere during the creation week described in Genesis 1.

If we consider translating the phrase as the downcasting of humanity, then it refers to since the Fall of Adam.

Last point, when does this time period end? At the end of the age, when Christ returns which means we are in the time period now and will be until end times.

 

[Ben1445]

if we look at Luke 11:50-51 we see prophets shed their blood "from the foundation of the world." Specially the time from Abel to Zacharias. So a better translation of the phrase would be "since the foundation of the world."

But we should not stop our study there. Just when was "the foundation of the world?" Most, taking the traditional translation as valid, would say somewhere during the creation week described in Genesis 1.

If we consider translating the phrase as the downcasting of humanity, then it refers to since the Fall of Adam.

Last point, when does this time period end? At the end of the age, when Christ returns which means we are in the time period now and will be until end times.

Out of curiosity, how long did you study to figure out that “from the foundation of the world” means from/since the beginning till the time of Jesus speaking?

 

[Van]

Out of curiosity, how long did you study to figure out that “from the foundation of the world” means from/since the beginning till the time of Jesus speaking?

I must infer that you disagree, but rather than present an alternate view, you seek to change the subject to my behavior. This pattern and practice of posters seems more like deflection than seeking discernment.

Did I say "till the time of Jesus speaking?" Nope, I said since somewhere during the creation week described in the Genesis 1 account or since the Fall of Adam until the end of the age, when Jesus returns. Why misrepresent what I said. Again is this to change the subject?

We have three phrases found in our English translations, "in the beginning", from the foundation of the world, and before the foundation of the world" that are so vague than they are sometimes interpreted using conjecture or speculation.

As bible students seeking to correctly understand God's word through careful and prayerful study, we should be seeking a common understanding of the meaning of these phrases wherever they appear in our translations.

Care to define each phrase?

 

[Ben1445]

I must infer that you disagree, but rather than present an alternate view, you seek to change the subject to my behavior. This pattern and practice of posters seems more like deflection than seeking discernment.

Did I say "till the time of Jesus speaking?" Nope, I said since somewhere during the creation week described in the Genesis 1 account or since the Fall of Adam until the end of the age, when Jesus returns. Why misrepresent what I said. Again is this to change the subject?

We have three phrases found in our English translations, "in the beginning", from the foundation of the world, and before the foundation of the world" that are so vague than they are sometimes interpreted using conjecture or speculation.

As bible students seeking to correctly understand God's word through careful and prayerful study, we should be seeking a common understanding of the meaning of these phrases wherever they appear in our translations.

Care to define each phrase?

Actually I meant exactly what I posted.
I was poking the bear holding the “better translation” sign.
My point was that it is not that hard to figure out “from” bears the same meaning as “since.”

I just was wondering how long you spent coming up with a “better” translation.