I don't know how this thread got so side tracked. I'll try to address the points made
concerning this thread.
So apparently I lost my salvation about 3-4 years ago as I made the transition from dispiville to preterism.
Perhaps the Baptist Board isn’t the place for your question since most here don’t believe you can lose your salvation. Oh wait, perhaps I was never saved. That must be it.
Hi Grasshopper. This isn't a Calvi/Arme thread, so I'll not discuss whether or not you lost your salvation or whether you were merely lost the whole time or whether you'll actually repent of Preterism before you die and still go to heaven. That's not the issue. The issue is whether or not there is an official position from the Baptist denomination on whether or not FP is a
damnable heresy.
So at what point does he lose his salvation?
Lose it, never had it, may regain it, that's not the issue. The question is whether or not, from any official Baptist perspective, one who holds to the FP position is currently on a road to hell rather than heaven. I believe that's where FP leads, but I'd like to know if there's an official position on the matter.
Me said:
Other Christians I know acknowledge that the doctrine is incredibly wrong and wicked, but they're all mad at me for saying that, in his present state, he's going to hell.
Grasshopper said:
So perhaps they are now going to Hell as well for not jumping on your witch hunt.
I'm not on a witch hunt. I'm seeking wisdom on the matter. I don't hate those who are against me on this matter. I think they're wrong, but I don't hate them, nor do I desire to see them go to hell, nor do I desire to kill them. I'd be happy to stand corrected, but what I read scripturally says quite a different story directly about FP. Please don't make character accusations against me (ie - I'm on a witch hunt) when you know nothing about me or how and in what spirit or manner I've approached things in this. I know that it's written in the Bible that if a watchman doesn't warn people of the dangers they're facing, those people will still face their dangers, but if I have not warned them, their blood is on my hands as well. Until I see it solidly disproven concerning my understanding of the FP position, I'll not hesitate to say that it is as deadly as scripture says it is.
Perhaps you could find us a preterist that agrees with Hymenaeus and Philetus that the resurrection was already past when Paul wrote his letter.
So you would agree that
when Paul wrote the letter, it was a damnable offense?
Paul refers to his audience in Corinth as his brethren:
1Co 15:1 And I make known to you, brethren, the good news that I proclaimed to you, which also ye did receive, in which also ye have stood,
Yet they believed that there was no raising of the dead:
1Co 15:12 And if Christ is preached, that out of the dead he hath risen, how say certain among you, that there is no rising again of dead persons?
Why does Paul call them brethern?
Finally, have you ever known of anyone’s faith being overthrown because of their preterist beliefs? Does your friend now not attend church? Has he stopped praying or reading his bible? Is he now more ungodly?
My faith has grown stronger, not weaker.
Please explain how one’s faith is overturned by a literal interpretation of Matt 16:27-28:
Now you're trying to argue the legitimacy of FP. I'm not interested in that for this thread. As has been clearly stated, this thread begins with the assumption that FP is false and the resurrection has not already passed. Because it has not passed, Paul's words still apply.
As for the rest of the posts that have ensued after this post by Grasshopper, I understand how easily threads can get sidetracked, but please take these other issues to other threads or PMing if necessary. Again, the topic of this thread is what the Baptist position is concerning the dangers or lack of dangers that come from FP. Thank you all for your participation.
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