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G. A. Riplinger and fundamentalism
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Ed Edwards
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And I never forget about IN AWE OF THY WORD where sherobycop3 said:
is talking about the letter 'I' which is all about self
compared to 'J' which is the beautiful starting letter
of our blessed Lord and Savior's name: 'Jesus'.
She seems to forget in the KJV1611 Edition
our Lord & Savior has His name spelled 'Iesus'.
It was changed by the KJV1762 Edition and KJV1769
Edition to 'Jesus'.
Blessed be the name of 'Iesus'
the color red is used here to honor the blessed
blood of Iesus shed freely for you and I:
joint heirs with Iesus.
(in early modern English 'I' was used for
the constanant 'J' like we have today
and for the vowel 'I' like we have today.
so the word Iesus' is pronounced
just as we pronounce it today.)
An I and J Story
In the years before typewriters, all military orders were handwritten. Because of the confusion between I and J, American land forces did not have "J" companies. The fourth squadron/battalion consisted of I, K, L, and M companies or MILK squadron/battalion.
In the years before typewriters, all military orders were handwritten. Because of the confusion between I and J, American land forces did not have "J" companies. The fourth squadron/battalion consisted of I, K, L, and M companies or MILK squadron/battalion.
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Pipedude said:
Interesting question. Most of the Christian fellowships I attend are a mix of Irish, Ulster, and English and they all say Jesus. The "e" and the "u" may vary in pronunciation, but never the "j".
North Carolina Tentmaker
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The only people I have heard pronounce Jesus (or Iesus) yay-sooze are those from a Spanish speaking background. Now I have heard them say yay-sooze but never English speakers.
Ed Edwards
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Sounds nearly Spanish: "hay-souze".Pipedude said:
Meanwhile speakers of Hebrew say 'Yeshua'.
Well, some do, there is a 'one-name-onliest' group
who says you can't get any power from the Name
of Jesus unless you PRONOUNCE IT RIGHT
(and it is along the lines of 'Yeshua' but with about
five sylables.
But, of course, 'people who use a phrase like "In Jesus
name" (should be proper ENglish 'In Jesus'es name')
don't understand what 'in Jesus'es name' means.
We are told by Jesus to speak in His name; but
'in Jesus'es name' means by the power and authority
of Jesus, not merely using His name like a magic
encantation.
I used to sit in for my boss & had a stamp of his
signature. I made sure before I took over a day or
two to find out every thing he was expecting to sign.
Cause i was signing 'in his name' (not in my own).
I had to make REAL sure what signed with his name
was exactly what he wanted me to do. That is what
doing things, asking for things, 'in Jesus'es name'
is all about - doing what Jesus woud do if He
were physically present.
Anyway, the point is that even Pipedude knows more about
the English Language than Dr. what'sherface.
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Ed Edwards said:
Technically it should be "in Jesus' name"
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C4K said:
Wikipedia says either of these forms is correct:
"in Jesus' name"
"in Jesus's name"
Go by what you say, rather than what you are
supposed to write.
So I apologize for telling how I found it to be in
the past (could have been 40 years ago
)(With a name like 'Edwards' whose possessive
is " 'es" and whose plural is "es" our family
has an interesting time when we talk about features that
belong to the whole family:
Discussion of the Edwardses'es family property
sounds like a bunch-a buzzin' bees
FWIW, I think I was hearing them refer to Jesus as "Iesu," and the "z" sound was the possessive. As I wrote above, "in Iesu's name."
Hispanic pronunciation would sound more like haysoose, ending with more s rather than z.
C4K, I'll bet that, if you ask some old people, they'll know this form.
Hispanic pronunciation would sound more like haysoose, ending with more s rather than z.
C4K, I'll bet that, if you ask some old people, they'll know this form.
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Pipedude said:
Let's ask our English brethren if they have ever heard Jesus pronounced that way.Been here a long time, met 100's of Christians of all ages and have never heard the name pronounced Yay-sou.
Don't know how to explain this one - just know I have never heard it in the part of the English speaking world. Maybe they were referring to a Latin hymn?
Bro Lamb, Ulsterman, any of you guys from the UK?
David Lamb
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C4K said:
No, neither have I heard the "Yay-sou" pronunciation. Many of our hymns have the four-letter "Jesu", (or at least used to have - most are changed to "Jesus" in contemporary hymn books) but in my experience, it is always pronounced "Jeez-yew". Examples are: "All hail the power of Jesu's name", "Jesu, lover of my soul", "Jesu, the very thought of Thee", "Jesu, Thou joy of loving hearts", and the translation od the German words famously set to music by Bach, "Jesu, Joy of man's desiring."
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Okay, that convinces me that I remember incorrectly from the mid-'80s. I must have heard "jeezyoo" and it got mixed up in my brain with "yaysoo, joy of man's desiring." I only heard it in public prayer and assumed (correctly, I see) that it was a liturgical form of the name.David Lamb said:
As for "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring," I've always pronounced that "yaysoo." Are there any Americans here who have traditionally pronounced it another way?
Salamander
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Who in their right mind listens to Joan Jett?robycop3 said:
Riplinger
Ive watched some of her stuff while I agree she does take some stuff to far but shes dead on on the new age bible versions being wrong. I mean how do you justify 16 verses missing from NIV, Jesus being demoted the blood being removed, fasting being removed the NIV and NLV saying Jesus fell from heaven. She also never claims to be a preacher shes a teacher and theres a big difference and the bible doesnt say anything about that. The new version are simply good translations of the wrong manuscripts check out this video its only 6 minutes long and it has nothing to do with Riplinger just quick history lesson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ykbnIQocq0
Ive watched some of her stuff while I agree she does take some stuff to far but shes dead on on the new age bible versions being wrong. I mean how do you justify 16 verses missing from NIV, Jesus being demoted the blood being removed, fasting being removed the NIV and NLV saying Jesus fell from heaven. She also never claims to be a preacher shes a teacher and theres a big difference and the bible doesnt say anything about that. The new version are simply good translations of the wrong manuscripts check out this video its only 6 minutes long and it has nothing to do with Riplinger just quick history lesson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ykbnIQocq0
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