G. A. Riplinger and fundamentalism

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

The topic here is Gail Riplinger - not the KJV. Lets stay on topic please.

 

[Salamander]

The topic here is Gail Riplinger - not the KJV. Lets stay on topic please.

I thought it was roby who related Joan Jett and Riplinger to be somewhat the same?

 

[John of Japan]

Ive watched some of her stuff while I agree she does take some stuff to far but shes dead on on the new age bible versions being wrong. I mean how do you justify 16 verses missing from NIV, Jesus being demoted the blood being removed, fasting being removed the NIV and NLV saying Jesus fell from heaven.

While I object with you to the verses missing from many versions (being a Byzantine text man myself), I think the term "New Age Bible" is just ridiculous, and is embarassing to many of us who prefer the beloved KJV. The very idea that the truths of God's Word, even translated poorly, somehow teach New Age doctrine is beyond the pale.

She also never claims to be a preacher shes a teacher and theres a big difference and the bible doesnt say anything about that. The new version are simply good translations of the wrong manuscripts check out this video its only 6 minutes long and it has nothing to do with Riplinger just quick history lesson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ykbnIQocq0

Look at your KJV again. It specifically says, "But I suffer not a woman to teach (not "be a preacher," as you put it), nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (1 Tim. 2:12). I'd say you don't know your KJV Bible very well if you think this doesn't forbid what Riplinger does. She is in direct violation of the Word of God, and is not worthy of any respect until she publicly repents.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

While I object with you to the verses missing from many versions (being a Byzantine text man myself), I think the term "New Age Bible" is just ridiculous, and is embarassing to many of us who prefer the beloved KJV. The very idea that the truths of God's Word, even translated poorly, somehow teach New Age doctrine is beyond the pale.

Look at your KJV again. It specifically says, "But I suffer not a woman to teach (not "be a preacher," as you put it), nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (1 Tim. 2:12). I'd say you don't know your KJV Bible very well if you think this doesn't forbid what Riplinger does. She is in direct violation of the Word of God, and is not worthy of any respect until she publicly repents.

Good words John. I have never sat under her teaching, then again I would not do so. I have seen videos of her teaching in churches and getting amens from the assembled crowd. I have never understood why she is the only woman allowed to do so in fundamental circles.

 

[John of Japan]

Good words John. I have never sat under her teaching, then again I would not do so. I have seen videos of her teaching in churches and getting amens from the assembled crowd. I have never understood why she is the only woman allowed to do so in fundamental circles.

That's not the IFB movement you and I grew up with, is it Roger? :tonofbricks:

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

That's not the IFB movement you and I grew up with, is it Roger? :tonofbricks:

ah - no

 

[tinytim]

That's not the IFB movement you and I grew up with, is it Roger? :tonofbricks:

I know I am MUCH younger than you two, but can I jump in here too, :1_grouphug: and say it is not the same IFBs I grew up with also...:wavey:

 

[John of Japan]

I know I am MUCH younger than you two, but can I jump in here too, :1_grouphug: and say it is not the same IFBs I grew up with also...:wavey:

We'll not despise your youth--son! :thumbs:

 

[tinytim]

Thank you pops....

 

[Rippon]

Good repartee gents .

 

[Squire Robertsson]

The Only Woman

I know one that is otherwise qualified to teach doctrine is Mrs. Jane Hollowood. She is the widow of Dr. M. James Hollowood, late professor of Systematic Theology, Maranatha Baptist Bible College.
However, the only doctrinal course I know she taught was a women only section of undergrad Syatematic Theology.
Mrs. Hollowood wouldn't think of formally teaching men. Though in a one on one you'd be an idiot not to listen to her. She's forgotten more systematic theology than many men knew in the first place.

 

[Salamander]

While I object with you to the verses missing from many versions (being a Byzantine text man myself), I think the term "New Age Bible" is just ridiculous, and is embarassing to many of us who prefer the beloved KJV. The very idea that the truths of God's Word, even translated poorly, somehow teach New Age doctrine is beyond the pale.

Look at your KJV again. It specifically says, "But I suffer not a woman to teach (not "be a preacher," as you put it), nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (1 Tim. 2:12). I'd say you don't know your KJV Bible very well if you think this doesn't forbid what Riplinger does. She is in direct violation of the Word of God, and is not worthy of any respect until she publicly repents.

I think you're awarding her some sort of fame, she, or anyone else who has her speak, never claims.

To usurp authority is to take it by craftiness. I'll have to ask for your evidence she has done that. As far as her being a preacher? Got evidence?

I'd say you say she is preaching, but in this day of apostacy, teaching is often regarded as preaching.:tonofbricks:

 

[Salamander]

Good words John. I have never sat under her teaching, then again I would not do so. I have seen videos of her teaching in churches and getting amens from the assembled crowd. I have never understood why she is the only woman allowed to do so in fundamental circles.

Is this done during the worship service, or is it an after hours meeting?

Some IFB won't even let a woman on the platform.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Is this done during the worship service, or is it an after hours meeting?

Some IFB won't even let a woman on the platform.

"But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to vsurpe authoritie ouer the man, but to be in silence vnless it bee outside a church service, than shee is permitted even though it still appeareth as a service."

Is that your interpretation of the passage?

 

[tinytim]

Is this done during the worship service, or is it an after hours meeting?

Some IFB won't even let a woman on the platform.

Oh, the loopholes we seek to promote our pet doctrines!

"She's not preaching'
She is teaching...

But only when the service is not officially labelled a "Worship" service...
And she is not "usurping" because she is not being crafty...

Listen, it is as simple as this... IF you believe a woman should not be teaching a man, you cannot support her, unless she teaches only women...
Anything other than this, you are being hypocritical in your beliefs....

 

[Salamander]

"But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to vsurpe authoritie ouer the man, but to be in silence vnless it bee outside a church service, than shee is permitted even though it still appeareth as a service."

Is that your interpretation of the passage?

I guess my momma is now a rebel and possibly a reprobate for teaching me to brush my teeth.

The verse has to do with order of service, not casual meetings or study groups.

 

[Salamander]

Oh, the loopholes we seek to promote our pet doctrines!

"She's not preaching'
She is teaching...

But only when the service is not officially labelled a "Worship" service...
And she is not "usurping" because she is not being crafty...

Listen, it is as simple as this... IF you believe a woman should not be teaching a man, you cannot support her, unless she teaches only women...
Anything other than this, you are being hypocritical in your beliefs....

I suppose you have never been taught anything by a woman ever.

Anytime the worship service has come to order, women are to remain silent as to that order of service.

Since IFB means to be independent. it would only identify the antics of an association to try and control a local indigenous Bible-believing congregation.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I guess my momma is now a rebel and possibly a reprobate for teaching me to brush my teeth.

The verse has to do with order of service, not casual meetings or study groups.

Your momma taught you how to brush your teeth when you were a grown man?

Nothing is scripture saying a woman can't teach children.

And where did you get the idea this verse only talks about a regularly scheduled official church service?

 

[EdSutton]

Your momma taught you how to brush your teeth when you were a grown man?

Ed

 

[Pipedude]

It's okay if she has a flannelgraph.