GAP: Theory or Fact

There are many of them, and some of them are even atheists. They reject a God, but think we were placed here by aliens. Most of them are strong, faithful Christians, though.

It's funny. In the past, most scientific discoveries were made because scientists had a basic belief in God, and since God was real, things would be orderly, and since such-and-such is true, then that would be true... and voila!!! There it was!

Today, scientists reject God because the universe is orderly, and since it's orderly, God can't exist.

Most so-called fundamentalists reject science because they think the two are incompatible, and it's not.

I would recommend anyone read some good physics texts, or if you can find one, find Isaac Asimov's "Guide to Physics", and see the beauty and perfection in the world around us, and marvel at how scientists reject God, and many fundamentalists reject the beauty. (You can also find out why if it weren't for the speed of light, we'd be baked to a crisp, but that's another story.)

 

I know of good scientists who reject the gap but love and honor God. I came across Dr. Henry Morris while he was at VPI in the 60's and he has put me in touch with many such as Dr. Gary Parker and many more that have work with ICR at times.

We will need to disagree on this one.

 

I wouldn't really consider Morris a Gap Theory proponent. He teaches the Day-age theory. That is a significantly different animal.


Lacy

 

He isn't, he was for a 6 days and then God rested on the 7th. All of the folks at ICR are as are AIG folks and many more.

 

I was absolutely mistaken, I was thinking about Hugh Ross. I have several of Morris' books. I must have been half-asleep. Please pardon my silly post.

Lacy

 

I would never say that anyone who believes in the gap theory has a gap between their ears. That would just be rude. But I have heard it said in other places.

Isn't it funy how some folks like to claim others, on occasion, say more than what the scriptures say and then come up with junk like the gap lunacy.

 

I have proven Kingdom Accountability from Pauline Epistles alone. And I have proven the Gap theory to be factual from the Poetic books alone.

:wavey: :wavey: :love2: Thanks for your vote of confidence SFIC.

 

Jim, yer only deceiving yourself and your other Mercy Eliminated cronies.

 

Here is where you did quite well.

You can't prove your false doctrine you stoop to lying about me?

 

The Threefold Problem of the Gap Theory

From Wilmington's Guide to the Bible: Pg. 19

IT IS UNSCIENTIFIC

The Gap theory was (in part) a Christian attempt to reconcile the creation account with the long periods of time in the theory of evolution.

But evolution itself as a theory is totally unscientific, defying the second law of thermodynamics.

IT IS UNSCRIPTURAL

The Gap theory would describe Adam walking atop a gigantic fossilized animal graveyard.

Paul, however, in Romans 5:12 and Romans 8:20-22 states tht man's sin brought about death, even of animals.

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:12

For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Romans 8:20

Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. Romans 8:21

For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. Romans 8:22

IT IS UNNECESSARY

The most natural interpretation of Gen. 1 and 2 is taking it at face value, without addition or subtraction.

Genesis 1:1 thus becomes a summary statement of creation.

1. In the first verse God tells us what He did.
2. In the remaining verses He tells us how He did it.

Although traces of this theory can be traced back in Christian writings as early as the fourth century A.D., it was not until the ministries of Dr. Thomas Chalmers, Scottish scholar , and George H. Pember (1876) that the theory really caught on. In 1917 C.I. Scofield included it in his notes and its popularity was assured. These last two dates are significant, for by 1880 Darwin's theory of evolution, as propounded in his book, The Origin of the Species, was universally accepted by the scientific world. This theory taught that the world was many millions of years old , as indicated by the vast fossil record and the claims of uniformitarian geology. The Christian theologian was then confronted with a serious problem. How could all this be reconciled with Genesis 1? An answer was found--uncounted millions of years could be conveniently tucked into that bottomless hole which was thought to exist between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. Thus the gap theory may be viewed in part as an attempt by the Christian theologian to appease the non-Christian evolutionist.

 

In my bible the gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 is about 2mm .......
and that's a fact, not a theory ..

Regards
Bob

 

ME has been desimated by 1 Peter 1:3-5 alone. It doesnt stand the test of scripture.

It has also been shown that the Jews that were cvontentious with Christ were unsaved as Christ told them their Father was Satan.

Goodness ME falls apart with every stroke of the key board!:thumbs:

 

:laugh: I like that theory, er fact!

 

FWIW, the two aren't necessarily exclusive of one another. One can hold to the day-age theory with or without holding to the so-called gap.

 

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Whatever it is, it isn't biblical.

 

Well i cannot with good conscience, greekify the word "replenish" out of its normal (and consistently contextual) meaning.

I cannot overlook the fact that the world in Gen1:2 was "without form and void", a phrase which is only used one other time in the Bible and to describe a catastrophic destruction of the world.

I cannot logically place the, creation of, and fall of Lucifer and the evil angels in a 7-day creation that was declared "very Good" by God.

I don't need a place for millions of years, or geological layers because I believe the 7-day creation to be a complete re-creation. Noah's flood accounts for all of the "evidence" (geological layers, etc) we see.

Lacy

 

The Bible says nothing of a re-creation. It says the world and all therein were created in 7 days. To say it was re-created would be questioning God's Word.

 

Maybe that is where the old saying originated, "If you don't succeed at first, try, try again." :laugh:

 

1. I'm disappointed that you have chosen to discard the objective data of posts #96, 100 and 104 of the various Bible version and the use of male by the KJV in vv.22, 28.

2. Forget about my comments, but consider the objective data.