? - Gen 1:31

[Dave G]

I find it disheartening to see how this thread has devolved into petty argument.
Let's get back to answering the OP, shall we?

What was his status at this very moment?

As stated in another thread, my personal observation based on my studies is that Lucifer had yet to fall before day 7 ended.
In other words, the fall of Lucifer coincided with the Fall of Adam.
It might have been one day after, or a week...we do not know.

To me, God said it was "very good" on day 6.
On day 7 He rested.
Then on day 8 or thereafter, is when Lucifer desired to be like the Most High, and the Lord cast him to Earth for his pride and inciting rebellion in Heaven.
That is when "very good" changed to "corrupt".

God is holy, and His holiness is expressed in absolutes...
If He says something is "very good", then it meets His standard of perfection.

That is my own opinion, and nothing more.
It is based on deduction...
But the Scripture is silent on the exact timing, and so should we be.


Seeing what others have written here, I felt the need to clarify a few things:

For the record, I am "Young Earth", and to me, an "Old Earth" cannot be proven with either man's so-called "science" or his observations.
As I see it, true science weaves in God's word and that is what guides our observations...
Not the other way around;
And it definitely does not ignore God's word on a matter.

Unrepentant men seek to "prove" their observations without regard to God and His creating it all, and theorize all sorts of things while they hold the truth in unrighteousness.
Repentant men acknowledge God's right to both create and to rule that Creation.
They also believe His words as they stand, and, ultimately, do not seek to go beyond them.

 

[Dave G]

Does Psalms 8:6 concern the Son of Man?

For that I think that we'll need the full context:

" O Lord our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth! who hast set thy glory above the heavens.
2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.
3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
4 what is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all [things] under his feet:
7 all sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
8 the fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, [and whatsoever] passeth through the paths of the seas.
9 O Lord our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth!" ( Psalms 8:1-9 ).

As I see it, verse 2 is referring to the children of God...
Prophesied in Psalms 8, and fulfilled in Matthew 21:8-16.

Verse 4 is describing man and then brings in a dual prophecy about the "son of man" to come, Jesus Christ.
The reason I say "dual prophecy", is because the Lord referred to Ezekiel as the "son of man" some 93 times.

So, the "son of man" in the literal sense is anyone born of a woman.
But Jesus Christ also referred to Himself as "the Son of Man" ( Matthew 12:8, Matthew 24:30 ).

Verses 5 through 8 are the prophecy of David regarding Jesus Christ, and fulfilled in Hebrews 2:5-18.
Jesus Christ was made a little lower than the angels ( by choosing to be born of a woman ), and crowned with the glory and honor of God.

 

[Van]

Returning, hopefully, to Genesis 1:31 and God's declaration that what He had created, including mankind, was very good. Some believe that the Fall resulted in God's creation being cursed and thus no longer very good. Others say hogwash.

Very good refers to something being very suitable for its purpose, rather than morally upright.

What was the purpose of creation, at least in this solar system, you might ask. What does the Bible teach?

Did God's creation provide all necessary requirements for mankind to populate the earth, and thus provide a source for God to choose a people for His own possession, a people who would bring Him glory? What does Isaiah 43:7 say?