General P dances to the questions

[KenH]

I am referring to the minority that thinks that we shouldn't be setting a timetable to withdraw our troops.

 

[Plain Old Bill]

Let's see, we are still in Japan, Korea, Germany, Turkey, and a bunch of other places we were once ar war with. We tend to settle almost everywhere.

 

[KenH]

And that's a shame.

 

[NiteShift]

Of course, as ethnic cleansing runs its course there will be a decrease in ethnic violence. Once they run most of the "undesirables", from their point of view, out of their neighborhood there's less people to commit violence against. Thus, ethnic violence decreases.

That's like saying gang violence will drop because the gang members will run out of people to cut or kill in their own block. Their violence just continues to expand outwards.

Ethnic cleansing in Iraq had not run it's course. Things were just getting started good before the strategy of protecting the populace and setting up within violent neighborhoods was begun. Iraq has a population of about 27,000,000 and the sectarian killing was expanding exponentially before the surge, with each killing begetting dozens more.

This argument has no legs.

 

[poncho]

I predicted it would turn to this several years ago. The glamour of a quick war would wear off as winning the peace would be harder then winning the war. As long as we have politicians who are self serving cowards and a bunch of weak sister news media any endeavor we take will be doomed to failure. We ,the general public are like stupid sheep listining to and believing all of the garbage the Kenndeys,Obamah"s, and Kerry's put out along with our bleeding heart press.

Bin Laden declared war on the United States and then attacked us over and over until he finnally got our attention with the Twin Towers. The president of Iran wants our destruction as well as Israels complete destruction. As we speak the Taliban and Al Queda are trying to move back into Afganistan. When we do finnally tuck our tails and run as Bin Laden predicted we would then the enemy will be free to follow us to our own land and attack us here again. Just because we quit don't mean the enemy will quit.

Our public whinning and crying is counter productive it only encourages the enemy. No war ever goes according to plan, so get used to it.

What we really need to do is add about 80 more divisions and really get after these guys wherever they are.
We should develop our iol resources in Alaska, the Gulf of Mexico, and the shale oil (2Trillion Barrels in Wyoming ). Then let these renegade Islamics go back to the stone ages.:BangHead:

Gee that's sounds like a really great idea. But you're forgeting one little detail. We're broke. We can no longer afford this empire and more military adventures. What you are suggesting is that we go the same way as the U.S.S.R.:BangHead:

 

[dragonfly]

Does Jimmy Carter ring any bells?

Do you think that because Carter was a bad president, it makes Bush a good one?

 

[Plain Old Bill]

Dragonfly, answer is no,but we do have a few bad examples.
So Poncho your plan is to roll over and give in. Where will you be attending Mosque?:BangHead:

 

[poncho]

Dragonfly, answer is no,but we do have a few bad examples.
So Poncho your plan is to roll over and give in. Where will you be attending Mosque?:BangHead:

So Bill you haven't paid any attention at all to anything I've been preaching here for four years or what???

My plan is now and has always been the same.

Bet ya can't guess what it is.:BangHead:

 

[Plain Old Bill]

No Poncho I have'nt been reading your entries for 4 years. As I recall you,ve always been very libral and very contentuois.

 

[poncho]

No Poncho I have'nt been reading your entries for 4 years. As I recall you,ve always been very libral and very contentuois.

Fair enough.

My plan is to be an American Bill. Not a democratic American, not a Republican American, not a liberal or conservative American. But an American period. Live by American Laws. Be eductaed in American history (not just the fluffy red white blue rewritten stuff you all rely on but all of it good bad and ugly) To understand politics and power and all those isms. To understand what makes lefties and righties think like they do and not do it becaue it's the stupidest most ridiculous time wasting thing an American can do. It confuses and distorts everything till it becomes mere gibberish not worthy of debate by people who think of themselves as "logical".

Then maybe figure out a way to get you all to think that way so we can actually have a fleeting chance at reclaiming this our nation from corruption greed and criminallity in the state.

In other words Bill, do what's sane first so then we might possibly be able to figure out what's best for the country after that.

Crazy as it sounds that's my plan. Now what's your's again?

 

[Plain Old Bill]

Good luck. You will need to broaden your audience to spread your ideas. This forum has to narrow of a base.

As for me FIRST I defend what I have then I work on making it better, plain and simple. Do not tread on me or mess with me or mine. I will defend to the last drop of blood. I did not attack these guys and if they leave me alone I am perfectly content to leave them alone.