George Floyd - the rest of the story

[Salty]

There is an excellent video:

In a video compilation from police body cameras, bystanders and a shop camera, Floyd is in an agitated state, first saying, “Please, don’t shoot me,” then refusing to put his hands on the steering wheel and later resisting officers. He occasionally appears incoherent and struggles with officers attempting to place him in a police car.

The entire video — which you can see here —

IF you turn on the video - please be sure to watch the entire 20 some minutes.


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Cal Thomas Has the One Video Each Juror Needs to See Before Deciding on the Floyd Case

 

[SavedByGrace]

There is an excellent video:

In a video compilation from police body cameras, bystanders and a shop camera, Floyd is in an agitated state, first saying, “Please, don’t shoot me,” then refusing to put his hands on the steering wheel and later resisting officers. He occasionally appears incoherent and struggles with officers attempting to place him in a police car.

The entire video — which you can see here —


This is the story
Cal Thomas Has the One Video Each Juror Needs to See Before Deciding on the Floyd Case

the fact remains, that the police officer who kept his knee on Floyd's neck for 8-9 minutes, is inexcusable, and in this case caused his death, which is either murder or manslaughter. As the police officer knew what his actions would probably cause, it is the former. He had enough time to think about what he was doing, and that it might end in Floyd's death. If he is found not guilty, or charged with anything less, then expect nation-wide violence.

 

[robycop3]

I have no breathing probs, & I tried a little experiment. I laid prone on my bed with my hands behind my back as if cuffed. Made me work a little harder to breathe. I had my wife put her knee on my neck, asking her not to bear down hard. It made it pretty hard to breathe! Yes, I realize I was on a soft bed, not a hard street, & my wife isn't nearly as heavy as Chauvin, nor was she bearing down too hard, but after 9 minutes, I was spent! (Yes, I realize I'm 72 & Floyd was 46, but I don't smoke, nor use dope.) I must conclude that, even if the knee in the neck didn't kill him, it certainly compromised his health. FOUR male cops shoulda been able to have handled him without that kind of force! He wasn't trying to kick them, etc.

 

[canadyjd]

There is an excellent video:

In a video compilation from police body cameras, bystanders and a shop camera, Floyd is in an agitated state, first saying, “Please, don’t shoot me,” then refusing to put his hands on the steering wheel and later resisting officers. He occasionally appears incoherent and struggles with officers attempting to place him in a police car.

The entire video — which you can see here —


This is the story
Cal Thomas Has the One Video Each Juror Needs to See Before Deciding on the Floyd Case

It’s an ok video and gives a pretty good overall picture of the situation leading up to the restraint.

As I’ve stated before, police had the right to arrest Floyd, even a responsibility to do so. No question.

Floyd was resisting, mostly passage aggressive, refusing to follow instructions and using his body weight as an obstacle for police to overcome.

The video doesn’t show the entire time the officers were on his neck, only a couple of minutes that I could tell. It doesn’t show the officer checking for a pulse and telling the other officer on his neck he had no discernible pulse. It doesn’t show the police staying on top of him for another 2:45 seconds after being told he had no discernible pulse.

I doubt it changes anyone’s mind.

peace to you

 

[Salty]

the fact remains, that the police officer who kept his knee on Floyd's neck for 8-9 minutes, is inexcusable, and in this case caused his death, ...

But according to the autopsy, it was the drugs that killed him. In fact, if you notice Floyd was able to move his head - as the officer did not have his knee tightly pressed on the neck.

BTW - you did watch the entire video - didnt you?

 

[SavedByGrace]

But according to the autopsy, it was the drugs that killed him. In fact, if you notice when Floyd was able to move his head - as the officer did not
have his knee tightly pressed on the neck.

BTW - you did watch the entire video - didnt you?

Yes I watched the whole video. Disturbing

 

[Salty]

Yes, it was disturbing as to how the drugs were affecting Floyd.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Yes, it was disturbing as to how the drugs were affecting Floyd.

Did the police act appropriately?

 

[Salty]

Did the police act appropriately?

Yes

 

[SavedByGrace]

Yes

Really? When George Floyd was on the ground, was he a real and present threat to any of the police officers? Were any of them in real danger for their lives? Could he not have been restrained in any other way? I have heard the testimony of another police office, "In damning testimony, Lieutenant Richard Zimmerman told the court that former officer Mr Chauvin's fatal arrest of the unarmed black man last May involved "top-tier, deadly" force and should not have been used". Is this guy wrong? If Derek Chauvin is not charged with at least man-slaughter, then your country will suffer gravely, and I fear that good police officers will be attacked and probably killed.

 

[Salty]

"Lieutenant Richard Zimmerman told the court that former officer Mr Chauvin's fatal arrest of the unarmed black man last May involved "top-tier, deadly" force and should not have been used". Is this guy wrong?

Yes, I think he was wrong. I was watching his testimony and he was not assertive with his answers. There seem to be a hesitation. I'm wondering if the mayor had a little talk with the LT......

If Derek Chauvin is not charged with at least man-slaughter, then your country will suffer gravely, and I fear that good police officers will be attacked and probably killed.

You are absolutely right. Its said that people want justice - as long as Chauvin is found guilty. If the officer is found innocent-many officers will be attacked - not only in Minn, but thruout the entire country.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Yes, I think he was wrong. I was watching his testimony and he was not assertive with his answers. There seem to be a hesitation. I'm wondering if the mayor had a little talk with the LT......


You are absolutely right. Its said that people want justice - as long as Chauvin is found guilty. If the officer is found innocent-many officers will be attacked - not only in Minn, but thruout the entire country.

do you think that Chauvin is not guilty, and walk away free? Did his actions cause, or even contribute to Floyd's death?

 

[Salty]

do you think that Chauvin is not guilty, and walk away free? Did his actions cause, or even contribute to Floyd's death?

IMHO Did not cause Floyd's death- his action may have expedited his demise.

 

[Scott Downey]

Yes, I think he was wrong. I was watching his testimony and he was not assertive with his answers. There seem to be a hesitation. I'm wondering if the mayor had a little talk with the LT......


You are absolutely right. Its said that people want justice - as long as Chauvin is found guilty. If the officer is found innocent-many officers will be attacked - not only in Minn, but thruout the entire country.

Mob Justice, what is the answer, more police force, then if that does not work, the military, water cannons, active denial devices.
Then if none of that works, a civil war, but of course it will work. Thing is the woke military and current government did little to nothing before and would do little to nothing again.
We live in more evil times than we used to, the government is no longer a law and order government. I expect the only real solution is a hot civil war, right now we are in a cold civil war.
Human history proves what I am saying. A hot war fear is also why the Supreme court refused to intervene in the election fraud.

active denial devices - Bing
6 Creepy New Weapons the Police and Military Use To Subdue Unarmed People - Alternet.org

 

[SavedByGrace]

Mob Justice, what is the answer, more police force, then if that does not work, the military, water cannons, active denial devices.
Then if none of that works, a civil war, but of course it will work. Thing is the woke military and current government did little to nothing before and would do little to nothing again.
We live in more evil times than we used to, the government is no longer a law and order government. I expect the only real solution is a hot civil war, right now we are in a cold civil war.
Human history proves what I am saying. A hot war fear is also why the Supreme court refused to intervene in the election fraud.

active denial devices - Bing
6 Creepy New Weapons the Police and Military Use To Subdue Unarmed People - Alternet.org

having told us all of that, is Chauvin gulity?

 

[Scott Downey]

having told us all of that, is Chauvin gulity?

Not in my opinion, not at all.
Floyd self murdered himself, living on the edge. Lethal doses of drugs like Fentanyl, and not the only one he was taking. There is a question, did he deal drugs, and took pills when the police arrested him to hide evidence, thus the overdose which would have killed him 3 times the lethal level.
You know he has a violent history, held a gun to a pregnant woman's belly during a robbery. Such is the way of the violent wicked.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

having told us all of that, is Chauvin gulity?

A juror should accept only incontrovertible medical evidence that the officer's actions led to Floyd's death as charged. It must be beyond a reasonable doubt. The prosecution must make its case. What is presented in the courtroom is key. But the jurors will need to have the collective wisdom and integrity to make the right decision.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Not in my opinion, not at all.
Floyd self murdered himself, living on the edge. Lethal doses of drugs like Fentanyl, and not the only one he was taking. There is a question, did he deal drugs, and took pills when the police arrested him to hide evidence, thus the overdose which would have killed him 3 times the lethal level.
You know he has a violent history, held a gun to a pregnant woman's belly during a robbery. Such is the way of the violent wicked.

your response will no doubt fan the flames already burning, as they sound very much biased. Floyd's life-style is not on trial, but the police office who must have known that his actions would cause him to die. It is very damning as the testimony of Lieutenant Richard Zimmerman shows.There cannot be any cover up.

 

[Wesley Briggman]

MLK: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

So be it in this case. Floyd's character set the stage for his demise. If he had complied with the commands of the officers, he might have died because of his life-style.

 

[Scott Downey]

That one bad guy Floyd with his evil life style. Look at how much pain and suffering he caused.
And many people refuse to say he lived an evil life. Because their deeds also are evil.