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Germany Locks Down the Unvaccinated, Weighs Vaccine Mandate
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Germany Locks Down the Unvaccinated, Weighs Vaccine Mandate
Germany’s circumstance possibly foreshadows conditions to come, with a winter surge like Europe’s looking likely in other parts of the world with the new variant.
German officials announced a nationwide lockdown on Thursday for the unvaccinated and showed support for making vaccinations mandatory against the coronavirus in the coming months.
The restrictions, which are only for the unvaccinated who have not recently recovered from COVID-19, exclude individuals from non-essential stores and activities, including theaters and restaurants, and impose limits on private gatherings with unvaccinated individuals.
The moves come as the latest coronavirus variant of concern, omicron, has sparked worry worldwide of yet another rise in coronavirus cases and as Europe was already in the midst of a surge heading into the winter months. While research remains limited, the World Health Organization has assessed that the variant poses a “very high” global risk. And although nearly 70% of Germany’s population is fully vaccinated, some experts have speculated that the variant may have heightened resistance to current vaccines.
Germany’s circumstance possibly foreshadows conditions to come, with predictions of a winter surge like Europe’s perhaps more likely in other parts of the world with the new variant. In the U.S., cases began to decline after the delta variant dealt a heavy blow to the country this fall, and public health experts are still embracing the current vaccine as the best way to prepare for omicron. The first U.S. case was announced in California on Wednesday, days after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Monday strengthened its recommendation for all adults to receive a booster shot of a coronavirus vaccine.
Vaccinated Americans have been quick to seek out the booster shots. According to Kaiser Family Foundation data, the share of fully vaccinated adults who report receiving a booster shot has more than doubled in the last month, with about a quarter of fully vaccinated adults reporting receiving an extra shot.
Even among the unvaccinated in the U.S., 30% say the emergence of omicron has made them consider getting vaccinated, according to a Morning Consult poll. But unvaccinated adults are also more likely to say that concern over the new variant is overblown.
Germany has seen sometimes-violent demonstrations over virus restrictions, and more would be almost certain if the country mandated vaccines for all. Similarly, heightened political disagreements in the U.S. have made the idea of nationwide lockdowns for the unvaccinated or mandating vaccinations for everyone seem remote. President Joe Biden earlier this week said that the variant is a “cause for concern, not a cause for panic” and that lockdown scenarios shouldn't be needed if people are vaccinated and wear their masks.
But the president is expected to announce additional steps on Thursday to prepare for the winter months when viruses tend to surge and to assure Americans that the U.S. has the tools to fight the omicron variant while keeping businesses and schools open.
it's called "low vitamin D season" has no relevance to temperature nor the motivations of viruses.
Germany is going wonkers again. I guess it's time. They seem to do that every 80-100 years for the last several centuries.
kathleenmariekg
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The vaccine is not as effective against this strain, but the recommendations are becoming mandates to get it. Sigh. That makes sense. NOT!
I got my second vaccine yesterday, and I am not well at all. My throat is so swollen that it is restricting my airflow slightly. I prefer not to take anything that reduces fever so that my body can use fever to fight what was injected, but I needed to reduce the inflammation in my throat if possible. Ibuprophen helped enough that I did not feel like I needed to seek professional "help".
God is in control. I am too powerless to be taboo right now, and I have no choice but to submit, unless God moves me out of this current state of powerlessness. I trust His choice to leave me here. I have changed while here. I don't like it here, but I submit to His plan even more than I submit the increasing pressure to submit to the vaccine requirements and mandates.
These lockdowns of the unvaccinated are really scary to me. I did not read if these people are banned from any type of medical or dental care. My tooth is getting worse and worse and my insurance does not cover anything but extractions. I am very grateful that if it gets infected that I can have the infection removed. I am hoping I might be able to qualify for SOMETHING somewhere that is less extreme, but I am waiting until I am no longer taboo, before I go begging.
Omicron is accelerating things that had plateaued a bit. I fear the acceleration might become exponential at some point.
I got my second vaccine yesterday, and I am not well at all. My throat is so swollen that it is restricting my airflow slightly. I prefer not to take anything that reduces fever so that my body can use fever to fight what was injected, but I needed to reduce the inflammation in my throat if possible. Ibuprophen helped enough that I did not feel like I needed to seek professional "help".
God is in control. I am too powerless to be taboo right now, and I have no choice but to submit, unless God moves me out of this current state of powerlessness. I trust His choice to leave me here. I have changed while here. I don't like it here, but I submit to His plan even more than I submit the increasing pressure to submit to the vaccine requirements and mandates.
These lockdowns of the unvaccinated are really scary to me. I did not read if these people are banned from any type of medical or dental care. My tooth is getting worse and worse and my insurance does not cover anything but extractions. I am very grateful that if it gets infected that I can have the infection removed. I am hoping I might be able to qualify for SOMETHING somewhere that is less extreme, but I am waiting until I am no longer taboo, before I go begging.
Omicron is accelerating things that had plateaued a bit. I fear the acceleration might become exponential at some point.
1689Dave
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Thanks for getting your vaccinations. It's a good witness for being concerned about others as Jesus taught. My second Pfizer caused some discomfort and visual abnormalities but cleared up soon. The third didn't have any negative effects.
Yeah, you need 3 jabs to stay safe locked down in your house.
1689Dave
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It's a courtesy to others. How do you represent Christ when people know you would just as soon infect them with a deadly disease as not?
Cmon Dave. this is the virtue signaling bunk which is dividing and inflaming. kinda the opposite of a peace-maker.
How many vaccines did Jesus take? Yeah, I know, ridiculous question ... almost as ridiculous as suggesting refusal of the cv jab therefore means there is not the concern for others as Jesus taught.
Do you support the vaccine mandates, too? Using higher authority to impose your will?
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This "all must jab" completely disregards the fact we are STILL in a fallen world and bad stuff happens ... bad stuff happens by intent, too.
Sad that it is apparently inconceivable there is the possibility the evil one could use this pandemic to deceive even the elect if possible.
It's apparently possible.
While none of us have the ability to know the heart of another, we can certainly inspect the fruit ... that means we have to be in the orchards ... and that means we can't simply take another's word for it.
I hope I'm wrong ... but I'm concerned for those who have taken the real juice at full strength. Evidently there is varying degrees/concentration in the different lot numbers just as there are some lot numbers filled 100% with saline.
That's not deploying with integrity of an authorized medicinal substance. That's a trial without declaring it to be a trial.
The life expectancy adjustment of the veterinarians' effort to produce an mRNA coronavirus vax which survived past two weeks ... were all within a couple months of 24 human life span months. I'm probably not saying that clearly ...
for instance ... the dogs ... 1:7 average ratio of dog:Human life span years. Those dogs who survived the injection past two calendar weeks all passed at approximately 2.5 calendar months from their injection. approximately 2 human years.
So ... of those with the full strength dose (and how can everyman know which is and which isn't?) ... the Pfizer trial people who survived (and testified at WI Senator Ron Johnson's panel last month) ... can expect to pass next summer ... if this relationship of time and experience of the veterinarians holds true as our "animal trial."
1689Dave
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How do you represent Christ? By exposing others to deadly diseases? What if you are blind to the increase in knowledge in the end times according to Daniel and fail to see God's mercy in the shots?
the only way you aren't going to expose another to this virus is if you remain locked in your home ... with a decon protocol for anything exiting your home ... a fortier if you will.
I'm not blind to the increase in knowledge ... nor the passing to and fro ... I'm part of the latter. I see it every day. (Unless Daniel was given the vision of the Starship Enterprise ... we are going to/fro) ...
this virtue signalling of the jab was preceded by the facecovering ... "show you care for your neighbor" ... yeah? by infecting yourself?
The ONLY impact a decision to refuse the jab is to possibly be a greater impact on the healthcare system with harder symptoms ... that's on the individual. the jabbed STILL contract the virus & transmit the virus just as easily as the non cv jabbed.
Even fauci has said this ... which is why the administration is now mandating cv tests to reenter the country (by air only by the way, you can walk across the border) for everyone, not only the non-jabbed.
So ... all you're doing by taking the jab is possibly reducing symptoms of an infection ... and exposing yourself to some serious side effects.
1689Dave
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So you justify infecting others with deadly diseases by not minimizing contact with others because you don't like the News or key figures it reports on. And think everything is just one big conspiracy? That presents an even worse image for anyone claiming to follow Christ.
Did JonC hijack your account?
The ONLY way you're going to avoid exposing (infect is presuming a lot) anyone is by quarantining yourself ... and deconing anything which comes from you.
getting the jab does NOT prevent transmission ... it doesn't even prevent infection ... as we just read about ANOTHER cruise ship with all fully jabbed folks having a major breakout. (course, on a cruise ship, where ya gonna go? er'body is gonna have big exposures/infections.
So ... your presuming taking the jab is some sort of Christian act is delusional. You're disregarding the truth about the matter.
1689Dave
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It lets people know you are responsible and do not want to harm them in any way.
so remain in your home and engage in only govt approved activity which will substantially mitigate or eliminate your impact on the rest of us.
SMH.
1689Dave
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If you had followed that advice, you could have helped eradicate the spread long ago. It's on you, not me.
Did you read the account of the referenced cruise ship?
how does this happen if 100% of 'em are jabbed? Answer ... the jab doesn't stop infection . the jab doesn't stop transmission.
E.G. presuming the cv jab is a virtuous act is a fools errand. If the shoe fits ... wear it.
Ah ... now it's all on me.
Mercy, brother. Step away from the keyboard and go enjoy the outdoors. Hopefully the sun is shining where you are. If not, it will be soon.
I have about 15 more minutes and I'm gonna do that very thing ... though it IS a bit breezy here today. Cows gotta be fed now that the grass has stopped growing. They don't care about a cv jab. They do care about having a full belly and being social. They don't quarantine themselves very well at all.
You are more infectious than the non vaxed.
1689Dave
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Only to the paranoid conspiracy theorists.