Gloating Liberals

[Crabtownboy]

Pretending that "liberal" means now what it did then is ignorant at best, dishonest at worst.

If you want to espouse the "Jesus was a liberal" view, then you have to take it all...not just your pet views. Do you really want the pro-gay, pro-abortion, relativistic view? Or shall we both admit that "liberal" mighte mean totally different things depending on the era involved, and is irrelevant to this discussion?

I believe you should note I said in his culture he was liberal. It was the religious bigots that he came down hard on during his day and time. I think he would come down hard on those who hold the same attitude today.

I do not believe being gay or abortion was an issue in his day. I see nothing in Christ's words to indicate they were. I see a lot in Jesus teachings on how we are to treat each other.

Oh, also he not only talked to lepers, but he touched them. That was totally against all principles of that day and time, religious and secular.

We are to apply what Christ taught and how he treated other to our own lives.

I see where we can be against an issue, but I do not see where we can hate.

 

[Revmitchell]

Jesus was as conservative as he could get. He dealt with lost unsaved Jews. Trying to equate that to liberalism and conservatism today is reaching to justify that which cannot be justified. It is a failed attempt by libbies to justify their very own social gospel. The Jews of Jesus day were not conservative they were unsaved.

 

[LadyEagle]

That's right.

 

[Andy T.]

So do you think that the Europe becoming post-Christian and politically liberal is just a coincidence?

Would love to hear a liberal's explanation of this. Of course, most liberals (the non-Christian stripe) would say that what's happened in Europe is a great thing, because they hate Christianity.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Would love to hear a liberal's explanation of this. Of course, most liberals (the non-Christian stripe) would say that what's happened in Europe is a great thing, because they hate Christianity.

You are demonstrably wrong, given the existence of Christians who are politically on the left.

 

[Alcott]

Oh, also he not only talked to lepers, but he touched them. That was totally against all principles of that day and time, religious and secular.

We are to apply what Christ taught and how he treated other to our own lives.

So how many lepers have you touched so far this year? Or do you repudiate his teaching?

 

[Robert Snow]

The fundies of his day were going to stone her to death. He stopped that and forgave her. A very liberal thing to to.




Because that was something that simply was not done in that day and time ... talk to a woman in public. No fundie of that time would have done so. It was very liberal of him to do that.



Yes, he taught peace and love. Turn the other cheek. Go the extra mile, etc., etc. His sword was for those who abused religion, the fundies of his day.



That is true. For that day and time a very liberal statement instead of stoning them or shunning them.



The were the most fundamental of the fundamentalists of his day. They, like fundies today, knew they were right and everyone else was wrong. They misued religion and Christ came down hard on them. They knew all the fundamentals by heart. It was a requirement that they did have them committed to memory ... believe it was the first 5 books of the OT had to be memorized.



So nothing about Christ's teachings mean anything to you? Interesting.

Yes, his death and resurrection are vital, but so are his teachings on how we are to live our lives and how we are to treat others.

This posting is right on! In Jesus' day he would be compared liberal; it's the Pharisees who were the fundamentalists.

 

[Revmitchell]

This posting is right on! In Jesus' day he would be compared liberal; it's the Pharisees who were the fundamentalists.

More jibberish form one who knows not their Bible.

 

[Robert Snow]

More jibberish form one who knows not their Bible.

We can't all be as brilliant as you!

However, if you looked more closely you would see that in His day, Jesus was a liberal, as well as being radical against the established religion of his day, which were controlled by and large of the Pharisees, and Sadducees.

 

[Revmitchell]

We can't all be as brilliant as you!

However, if you looked more closely you would see that in His day, Jesus was a liberal, as well as being radical against the established religion of his day, which were controlled by and large of the Pharisees, and Sadducees.

They were lost and Jesus was conservative as He held to scripture the pharisees actually were progressive.. One more example of libbies not being able to make legitimate comparisons.

 

[Crabtownboy]

They were lost and Jesus was conservative as He held to scripture the pharisees actually were progressive.. One more example of libbies not being able to make legitimate comparisons.

Try to sell that in a term paper and you will get a failing grade. You are totally wrong on this one, though you would like to be right.

Now maybe you can come up with another of your liberal interpretations of scripture to try to prove your point.

The Pharasees and indeed the culture of his time would have considered him very liberal.

 

[Revmitchell]

Try to sell that in a term paper and you will get a failing grade. You are totally wrong on this one, though you would like to be right.

Now maybe you can come up with another of your liberal interpretations of scripture to try to prove your point.

The Pharasees and indeed the culture of his time would have considered him very liberal.

I do not have liberal interpretations of scripture, see I believe that the Bible is more than just a book of words. Only those who have a low view of scripture like yourself and hold personal experiences equal to or higher than scripture maintain liberal views.


Since you are blinded by your liberalism let me try to help you out here. The Pharisees you refer to were lost. They did not have a relationship with God. They were much like many cults we see today. If you want to compare lost liberal people to lost conservative people then you may have a legitimate comparison.

Christ being God who decides the standard for righteousness and who wrote scripture cannot be considered liberal. The lost do not get to determine that. But libbies, like yourself, work so very hard and in vain to soothe their consciences that they are willing to make these very bad comparisons that hold no water. Throwing the word "culture" into the mix in no way legitimizes the erroneous comparison. And referring to Jesus as liberal is about
as irreverent as you can get. There really is no need to stoop to such levels.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Who ruled Israel during Christ's life ? It was the Romans. I'd like to see an example of one Roman Law he broke, or him taking on the "establishment" of the people in charge.

I'd still like to see CTB answer my question of who is forgiven, how they are forgiven,. and what Christ will say to those who are not forgiven. Perhaps he's researching what Mark Twain wrote about it....

 

[Crabtownboy]

I do not have liberal interpretations of scripture, see I believe that the Bible is more than just a book of words. Only those who have a low view of scripture like yourself and hold personal experiences equal to or higher than scripture maintain liberal views.

Oh you have made the most liberal interpretation of scripture of almost anyone I have seen here.

Since you are blinded by your liberalism let me try to help you out here. The Pharisees you refer to were lost. They did not have a relationship with God. They were much like many cults we see today. If you want to compare lost liberal people to lost conservative people then you may have a legitimate comparison.

They were the conservatives conservative of their day in that culture. Lost or not they saw themselves as the defenders of the faith.

Christ being God who decides the standard for righteousness and who wrote scripture cannot be considered liberal. The lost do not get to determine that. But libbies, like yourself, work so very hard and in vain to soothe their consciences that they are willing to make these very bad comparisons that hold no water. Throwing the word "culture" into the mix in no way legitimizes the erroneous comparison. And referring to Jesus as liberal is about as irreverent as you can get. There really is no need to stoop to such levels.

Actually I am much more conservative than you. I take scripture as it is written and do not continually misuse scripture, taking liberties with it to try to prove my point.

I follow Christ and see his compassion and love for people. You seem to really dislike people. Your view toward people reflexts an acceptance of the secular view of people and not that of a loving God.

Try reading the life of Christ in the Bible and study carefully how he treated people and tells us how we are to treat people. They you may become a conservative.

Have a blessed day.

 

[Revmitchell]

Oh you have made the most liberal interpretation of scripture of almost anyone I have seen here.




They were the conservatives conservative of their day in that culture. Lost or not they saw themselves as the defenders of the faith.



Actually I am much more conservative than you. I take scripture as it is written and do not continually misuse scripture, taking liberties with it to try to prove my point.

I follow Christ and see his compassion and love for people. You seem to really dislike people. Your view toward people reflexts an acceptance of the secular view of people and not that of a loving God.

Try reading the life of Christ in the Bible and study carefully how he treated people and tells us how we are to treat people. They you may become a conservative.

Have a blessed day.

It is an impossible task to take you seriously with posts like this.

 

[sag38]

In Crabtowns' fantasy world liberals are conservatives and conservatives are libreals. Crab, let see you try this junk in a term paper at a conservative(real) seminary. I can tell you what would have happened if you tried that flawed logic where I went to seminary. Of course your koolaide would have tasted well at the liberal/secular college that I attended.

 

[Crabtownboy]

In Crabtowns' fantasy world liberals are conservatives and conservatives are libreals. Crab, let see you try this junk in a term paper at a conservative(real) seminary. I can tell you what would have happened if you tried that flawed logic where I went to seminary. Of course your koolaide would have tasted well at the liberal/secular college that I attended.

You like to condemn those you do not agree with as liberals.

Please define liberal for me. What, in your view, makes a person a liberal. Thanks in advance.

 

[sag38]

Go look in the mirror.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Go look in the mirror.

That is an extremely impolite reply to an honest question. I must say, a very liberal answer to a question as it has nothing to do with the meaning of the question.

Are you always so impolite or have you had a bad day?

Now, define what you mean by liberal. Thanks in advance.

 

[Revmitchell]

That is an extremely impolite reply to an honest question.

You have got to be kidding. Talk about pot calling the kettle back.

I must say, a very liberal answer to a question as it has nothing to do with the meaning of the question.

Hey, guess what.....the word liberal doesn't fit in everything said. Good grief.

Are you always so impolite or have you had a bad day?

You should ask your self the same.