God and TIME

[Brother Bob]

No, the Scripture says to rightly divide the word of truth and I was just glad to help out James. Calvinist seem to have this act of leaving out believing and I just try and help when I can, I used all of His Scriptures and never added none of my own, it all belongs to him, amen. peace

 

[Brother Bob]

Can Christ Go back in time?

He sees back in time as you say. If he sees in the future what is so hard about seeing the past?

To Him it is all at once so it is not back to Him.

 

[saturneptune]

Questions are really amazing to read at times. Of course Christ can go back in time, forward in time, from time to eternity, eternity to time or any other dimension that may exist. Where do you all get these questions? Is there a web site or something?

 

[Jarthur001]

No, the Scripture says to rightly divide the word of truth and I was just glad to help out James. Calvinist seem to have this act of leaving out believing and I just try and help when I can. peace

Hey..God needs to thank you. You added to the Word. Thos words are not there. I guess it does not matter to you....but maybe you should check with God 1st.

What do you think?

If man can do that...does that mean I can say..

Now faith is going to kmart and buying a blue tie....for the substance of blue things are hoped for, by the evidence of blue lights flashing at kmart.

You see..if we change Gods Word we can make it say what ever we want.


That is nothing but blaspheming Gods Word!!! And I back not down from that!!


Read the text as it is...and leave it alone.

 

[Jarthur001]

He sees back in time as you say. If he sees in the future what is so hard about seeing the past?

To Him it is all at once so it is not back to Him.

Yes..He can see. Now I ask again.

You said God was not bound to time.

Can Christ go back in time?

 

[Jarthur001]

Questions are really amazing to read at times. Of course Christ can go back in time, forward in time, from time to eternity, eternity to time or any other dimension that may exist. Where do you all get these questions? Is there a web site or something?

Then can Christ go back to a time when He was not or the cross?

 

[Brother Bob]

Hey..God needs to thank you. You added to the Word. Thos words are not there. I guess it does not matter to you....but maybe you should check with God 1st.

What do you think?

If man can do that...does that mean I can say..

I added to your word. I put Book Chapter and verse in what I added.

 

[saturneptune]

Frankly, the more immediate question is what are you smoking? Christ always was, if as I assume you believe the Bible, so that is a question along the lines of "can God create a rock to heavy for Him to lift?" or "Can God commit suicide?" These baiting questions have been around for years, serve no purpose other than to make fun of the Scripture. If the question is not in God's nature, He will not do it. Whether He could or not, who knows, who cares. SInce Christ died once for sin, there would be no purpose in going back to the cross. IF he could or not, who knows, who cares. IF a frog had wings, he wouldnt bump his butt. Get a hobby man.

 

[Brother Bob]

Yes..He can see. Now I ask again.

You said God was not bound to time.

Can Christ go back in time?

You err greatly James. There is no back to God. He is everlasting to everlasting. He sees all at once. the back as you call it , the now, the future. He is God. We are mortal man.

 

[Jarthur001]

I added to your word. I put Book Chapter and verse in what I added.

Gods Word reads...

And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.
Romans 8:28-30

Now highlight words you want. Use verse before this passage. Use verse after this passage. Use the Greek...if you need.

Whatever you do.......

DO NOT CHANGE THE CONTEXT.​

If you do...you rewrite Gods word. Sorry to be so bold, but I do take Bible study seriously.

 

[Jarthur001]

Frankly, the more immediate question is what are you smoking? Christ always was, if as I assume you believe the Bible, so that is a question along the lines of "can God create a rock to heavy for Him to lift?" or "Can God commit suicide?" These baiting questions have been around for years, serve no purpose other than to make fun of the Scripture. If the question is not in God's nature, He will not do it. Whether He could or not, who knows, who cares. SInce Christ died once for sin, there would be no purpose in going back to the cross. IF he could or not, who knows, who cares. IF a frog had wings, he wouldnt bump his butt. Get a hobby man.

Is Christ work on the cross bound to time?

forget about how heavy the rock is...

 

[Brother Bob]

Is Christ work on the cross bound to time?

As far as man is concerned but according to God he sees Him slain before the foundation of the world.

 

[Jarthur001]

You err greatly James. There is no back to God. He is everlasting to everlasting. He sees all at once. the back as you call it , the now, the future. He is God. We are mortal man.

Is Christ work on the cross bound by time?


Your friend say God can go back in time..and go forward. Can He?

 

[Jarthur001]

As far as man is concerned but according to God he sees Him slain before the foundation of the world.

I'm not asking if God can see in time...

I'm asking if Christ work on the cross is bound to time?

 

[Brother Bob]

Gods Word reads...
Romans 8:24
24: For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25: But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26: Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27: And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28:And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.
Romans 8:28-30

Now highlight words you want. Use verse before this passage. Use verse after this passage. Use the Greek...if you need.

Whatever you do.......

DO NOT CHANGE THE CONTEXT.​

If you do...you rewrite Gods word. Sorry to be so bold, but I do take Bible study seriously

Ok, James I didn't change it!


Hebrews, chapter 11
"1": Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Now being we are saved by Hope and "faith" is the substance of thing hoped for then its "faith" we are saved then God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

You know to be predestinated to be conformed to the likeness of His Son is to be made "Christlike" as in "being born again".

 

[saturneptune]

No, Christ's work is not bound to time. As you are always quoting Romans 8 from forknew to glorification, and every possible angle in between, it is obvious that glorification takes place outside of time, and since Christ's work ultimatly results in glorification, no, His work is not bound by time. Also, some of the Old Testement saints, such as Abraham, believed God and was counted as righteouness, forward to the cross.

This is not a mathematical formula. This is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Who cares how time relates? Its beyond human understanding, and really, makes no difference in why we are here, to share the Gospel.

 

[canadyjd]

I agree with you God didn't look forward in time. He was forward in time and just looked and saw who believed. He has no time. peace

Did God learn something new when He saw who believed? Did God "predestinate" people based on new information He obtained when He saw who would believe?

peace to youraying:

 

[Jarthur001]

No, Christ's work is not bound to time. As you are always quoting Romans 8 from forknew to glorification, and every possible angle in between, it is obvious that glorification takes place outside of time, and since Christ's work ultimatly results in glorification, no, His work is not bound by time. Also, some of the Old Testement saints, such as Abraham, believed God and was counted as righteouness, forward to the cross.

This is not a mathematical formula. This is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Who cares how time relates? Its beyond human understanding, and really, makes no difference in why we are here, to share the Gospel.

Saturn,

If you are saved, It is my feeling that the Bible says that Christ die for your sins on the cross. Christ took on your sins on the cross and his side was peirced and hands nailed to the cross. Can Christ ever again be the offering of a spotless lamb, pure without blemish or does He body bare the scars that shows it is finished and in the past?


Has Christ died (past tense)on the cross?

Can He die again for you tomorrow (future)?

Is Christ on the cross today (NOW)?..or did he raise?

Who cares how time relates?

According to Bob and others.."for" does not relate to Christ.

Does it?

 

[webdog]

Yes..He can see. Now I ask again.

You said God was not bound to time.

Can Christ go back in time?

Is Christ God?

 

[webdog]

Has Christ died (past tense)on the cross?

To us? Yes.

Can He die again for you tomorrow (future)?

Since we are bound by time, no.

Is Christ on the cross today (NOW)?..or did he raise?

Within time? No. Outside of it? Who knows.