Well DHK, you have not quoted him verbatim, he used the word "controls", you used the word "put". In this he is correct, but there is really not much difference. If God controls our thoughts, then we can only think what he wants us to think. We could not think an evil thought unless he wills it in his view.
I don't believe it accurate to even say God "allows" us to think evil. What I believe is that God creates us free moral agents with the ability to think our own thoughts. Otherwise man could not be morally responsible for his thoughts or actions.
Jer 32:35 And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
God said this sin of sacrificing children did not come into his mind. Then where did this thought originate? It must have originated in the minds of those who committed this sin. This shows men have the ability to form or invent their own thoughts and are therefore not controlled by God.
Thanks for the defense Winman. He also said "every" not just "put." But that's his apologetic, to misrep, and add words, THEN he has a cause!!! Of course, all based upon his fallacies.
However, how you conclude this is the same thing, well, is typical you Winman. You have serious trouble distinguishing truth from error, and distinguishing the vast difference between what I said, and what DHK says I said.
That I never said God puts every thought into our minds, and instead stated He does control thoughts and hearts and directs them Sovereignly, with given Scripture to prove it, show these are two very separate issues.
It's "puts every thought into our minds" v. "He does control mens thoughts, hearts." Two separate issues, DHK's being not only fabrication, but unscriptural, and mine is shown forth in Scripture.
Your quote of scripture to back up whatever theological (undisclosed) stance you have, is so far off, even a Heavens Gate member would have trouble believing you.
"It's not accurate to say God allows us to think evil?" Uh? Really? He doesn't allow us to think evil? Well, I wish that were true. But that is error on your part Winman.
He is allowing it right now,
isn't He? How do you come up with this stuff? You have got to quit listening to Family Radio!!!
Your proof text is so far off track, that it is almost sad, really. You're using this verse thinking I said what DHK said, that is, falsely accused of saying
"God puts every thought into man." I never said God gives us every thought. Thus, you are already going down the trail of DHK, fighting an argumennt I've never stated. See what I'm saying? You're using this vers to fight the argument that God puts every thought into man. You've gotten yourself confused again.
I seriously think you get confused really easily. I worry about you.
In the Faith Received thread, you rebuked me, in a statement, by stating something I already believe, then then rebuking me for it, saying I don't believe what I do believe. Hmm. I already believed what you said I didn't. Therefore, even in that thread, you were fighting against
the wrong thing!!! Go look, I think you only had one reply, and I replied to that. You should go take a look see.
Seriously,
I am worried about you, you are getting really confused brother. PM me if I can assist you in some way.
I won't read your response bro, because you will go off on so many Avenues, Cul De Sacs, Streets, Lanes, Alleys, and Blvd's and never really answer it, and by time you're done we'll be talking Noahs Ark somehow.
PM me if I can help you.
- God Bless
