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God Wants to Deliver Us from the Evil Instrumental Music of This Present Evil World

JonC

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Yea, I guess we have a problem. I see the contemporary gospel music as a money market, not worship of God in Spirit and Truth.

You see it as you will, and worship as you will, but I'll have no part in it.
Actually it isn't. More money has been made on hymnals.

A church typically spends approximately $170 to $250 for licensing annually regardless of whether it is CWM or traditional hymns. The average cost for churches using hymnals is $6,000 which is replaced, on average, every 10 years.

Now, if you are talking about songwriters then yes. But you are being a bit of a hypocrite here. Those writing new hymns make a good profit as well.


But that does not mean Christians who sing "How Great is Our God" are not worshipping in spirit and truth. That is where your comments turn anti-Christian.

There was a time your arguments were levied against the hymns you love. People condembed them as common and worldly, even condemned the use of painos. And like those churches who used the hymns, churches who use contemporary music will continue to praise God despite accusers from within the faith.

Today the worship of those who condemned traditional hymns (when they were new) is all but forgotten. Their churches died long ago.

I suspect we will see the same, unfortunately, with churches condemning the Brethern for using contemporary music. My experience with such churches is many (if not most) are already on their way to the grave (or are there and have not yet realized it). They are physically here, but they are blind to the works of God occurring in the present.

Time is a funny like that.
 

JonC

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I see the contemporary gospel music
I like Contemporary Worship Music for worship, and Contemporary Christian Music for driving to work (I also like the Grateful Dead for driving to work).

I am not too familiar with Contemporary Gospel Music. It is not a genre that appeals to me, although I assume the lyrics are good. I know some Southern Gospel groups (like Gold City).
 

Charlie24

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Actually it isn't. More money has been made on hymnals.

A church typically spends approximately $170 to $250 for licensing annually regardless of whether it is CWM or traditional hymns. The average cost for churches using hymnals is $6,000 which is replaced, on average, every 10 years.

Now, if you are talking about songwriters then yes. But you are being a bit of a hypocrite here. Those writing new hymns make a good profit as well.


But that does not mean Christians who sing "How Great is Our God" are not worshipping in spirit and truth. That is where your comments turn anti-Christian.

There was a time your arguments were levied against the hymns you love. People condembed them as common and worldly, even condemned the use of painos. And like those churches who used the hymns, churches who use contemporary music will continue to praise God despite accusers from within the faith.

Today the worship of those who condemned traditional hymns (when they were new) is all but forgotten. Their churches died long ago.

I suspect we will see the same, unfortunately, with churches condemning the Brethern for using contemporary music. My experience with such churches is many (if not most) are already on their way to the grave (or are there and have not yet realized it). They are physically here, but they are blind to the works of God occurring in the present.

Time is a funny like that.

I see this new style of music in the Church as comparable to a sermon I heard some years ago called "The New Cart."

It concerned the Ark of the Covenant being found abandoned in a field and when David learned of it he wanted to make a great ceremony in moving the Ark to the city.

David used " a new cart" to transport the Ark and it was a terrible mistake that cost a man his life. He failed to follow the Law of Moses in transporting the Ark. He forsook the old way for the new, and the Scripture says David became afraid of the Lord that day, and left the cart where it was and took counsel of the Lord in what to do. What he should have done in the beginning.

This new music is "The New Cart."
 

Scripture More Accurately

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You didn’t bother to notice until I mentioned it.
I am still waiting for answers from you.
Which instruments are the embodiment of evil?
Actually, no. I have studied that passage intensely for more than a decade. I am well aware of how people try to use that passage to support their views about music.

To claim that Romans 14:14 applies to instrumental music when music is not mentioned at all in the passage but deny that Galatians 1:3-5 applies to instrumental music because music is not mentioned at all in the passage would be faulty handling of Scripture.

I am still waiting for you to explain from Scripture how Romans 14:14 applies to instrumental music.
 
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